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Re: Shocking Scenes in Madrid.
Those cheap pints and breakfasts aren't aimed at immigrants, just the down market tourists of which Spain gets many.
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Re: Shocking Scenes in Madrid.
Originally Posted by cricketman
(Post 11187802)
Looking around the battered old UK cars on the CDS, I would say the oppposite was true
British people want to find somewhere sunny and cheap to live where they think they dont have to work much Your spelling isn't too hot either. :lol: So you've seen some battered old UK cars on the CDS alongside numerous battered old Spanish cars, no doubt. Now before you posted such absolute garbage on which to base your totally unfounded judgement, did you ever stop to think precisely how many UK expats are driving around in modern up to date Spanish registered cars ?????????? Certainly the vast majority of those I know at least. Regarding those in battered cars do you ever stop to think there may well be a perfectly sensible reason to use a battered old car in such God forsaken areas as that ? One of the best pieces of advice I was given when I first briefly lived in such an area. Think about it, I'm sure the penny/cent will drop eventually. You obviously haven't even the faintest clue. A very cheap shot even by your own pathetic standards. |
Re: Shocking Scenes in Madrid.
Originally Posted by andyrich666
(Post 11188072)
Did not look bad no, :unsure: at least 101 injured, 67 of them Coppers and 29 was so far arrested, I think the death of Adolfo Suarez has probably took the shine off the riots being a much bigger story today.
The TV clips were not pleasant viewing at all and they were behaving like people with virtually nothing left to lose. They've been told things are changing and improving for the past two years, unfortunately most stats indicate otherwise and the best hope for many of them now is a one way ticket heading towards N.Europe. The Spanish are overall a very proud nation, which makes it all the sadder to see so many of them having their dignity completely taken away and be reduced to acts of such desperation, not only as shown on TV, but in daily occurrences such as those I see on a regular basis, scavenging in the rubbish bins for food or anything of value, to give just one example. |
Re: Shocking Scenes in Madrid.
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
(Post 11188765)
Regarding those in battered cars do you ever stop to think there may well be a perfectly sensible reason to use a battered old car in such God forsaken areas as that ?
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Re: Shocking Scenes in Madrid.
Originally Posted by agoreira
(Post 11188946)
I change my cars every 2 years in UK, and every one I have traded in has been in immaculate condition, but given the pathetic driving standards in Spain if I ever moved there, I'd be driving an old banger as well.;)
http://elpais.com/elpais/2014/03/24/...03_411585.html Bad organisation all round apparently. The Spanish cops are usually well equiped, even over equiped and big in numbers, but they found themselves under serious pressure from desperate people who must have felt they had little to lose. Not quite so brave under pressure either. I saw one cop down on the floor apparently badly injured and still taking a kicking. His pals came to help, then turned round and fled and left him to it, as soon as they saw a few demonstrators heading in their direction. |
Re: Shocking Scenes in Madrid.
Originally Posted by andyrich666
(Post 11188072)
Did not look bad no, :unsure: at least 101 injured, 67 of them Coppers and 29 was so far arrested, I think the death of Adolfo Suarez has probably took the shine off the riots being a much bigger story today.
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Re: Shocking Scenes in Madrid.
Well Stevie definitely didn't see it, so it was probably all a figment of someones wild imagination. :cool:
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Re: Shocking Scenes in Madrid.
Originally Posted by agoreira
(Post 11188946)
I change my cars every 2 years in UK, and every one I have traded in has been in immaculate condition, but given the pathetic driving standards in Spain if I ever moved there, I'd be driving an old banger as well.;)
I take all the usual precautions with my current car, no longer sparkling, no longer British, but not an old banger either. I park away from Spanish old bangers and hire cars, I allow extra spacing when driving round roundabouts etc etc. And I still get those mysterious scratches in mysterious places, but now I just leave them in place - just like the grafiti on my wall outside. I'm even thinking about stopping polishing my shoes, to blend in with the people I meet every day, which are mostly Spanish people, well, about half and half actually. |
Re: Shocking Scenes in Madrid.
Originally Posted by HBG
(Post 11189439)
A lot of expats have come to that reluctant conclusion, especially if they come over with sparkling new British cars.
I take all the usual precautions with my current car, no longer sparkling, no longer British, but not an old banger either. I park away from Spanish old bangers and hire cars, I allow extra spacing when driving round roundabouts etc etc. And I still get those mysterious scratches in mysterious places, but now I just leave them in place - just like the grafiti on my wall outside. I'm even thinking about stopping polishing my shoes, to blend in with the people I meet every day, which are mostly Spanish people, well, about half and half actually. On the street I lived on in Benalmadena Pueblo there were quite a few British families. They were not well off by any stretch of the imagination. At least that was the impression they gave. Perhaps they have 100,000s squirreled away but never spent any! |
Re: Shocking Scenes in Madrid.
Originally Posted by cricketman
(Post 11189523)
I've bought 2 new and expensive cars over the past few years and never had a scratch
On the street I lived on in Benalmadena Pueblo there were quite a few British families. They were not well off by any stretch of the imagination. At least that was the impression they gave. Perhaps they have 100,000s squirreled away but never spent any! Over here it's a running joke. Expats (especially Germans, who have a sort of religious view of cars) move here with their new Audi's and Mercs... Within a year, they've been sold off in favour of an old Golf or Fiesta. To be fair, old Defenders have become pretty popular, as they are virtually indestructible. There's also the threat of being accused of being "rich" if you exhibit a new car. |
Re: Shocking Scenes in Madrid.
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
(Post 11189155)
Well Stevie definitely didn't see it, so it was probably all a figment of someones wild imagination. :cool:
http://ccaa.elpais.com/ccaa/2014/03/...26_320507.html |
Re: Shocking Scenes in Madrid.
Originally Posted by chopera
(Post 11189064)
The problem is that nobody who was there says they saw anything. Apparently it did kick off near the PP HQ after the demonstration was over and most people had already left.
It has been on all the news and in the papers too and still is today
Originally Posted by amideislas
(Post 11189539)
You're lucky then.
Over here it's a running joke. Expats (especially Germans, who have a sort of religious view of cars) move here with their new Audi's and Mercs... Within a year, they've been sold off in favour of an old Golf or Fiesta. To be fair, old Defenders have become pretty popular, as they are virtually indestructible. There's also the threat of being accused of being "rich" if you exhibit a new car. Who knows could be many reasons. I also see so many late nice motors with major dents and or scratches on, |
Re: Shocking Scenes in Madrid.
Originally Posted by andyrich666
(Post 11189571)
maybe like me they are just worried it will be siezed, maybe the cost of keeping the cars serviced is too much, maybe they have lost the 'keeping up with the jones' syndrome once they settle. Who knows could be many reasons. I also see so many late nice motors with major dents and or scratches on, The point is that if expats were indeed "rich" like amideislas says, then they would buy a nice new car anyway. Even if you get the odd dint then you can afford to get it fix. If you have a lot of money then you are not going to drive around all sweaty and uncomfortable in an old banger From the 3 years I spent on the CDS, I would say that the British people who lived there had about the same amount of money as the Andalucians they lived with, some had less, some more Up here, it is a different matter regarding cars. Oviedo is full of BMWs and Audis. And I must have seen a dozen Porsche Panameras here, and there is barely a dint in sight |
Re: Shocking Scenes in Madrid.
Originally Posted by andyrich666
(Post 11189571)
Who is nobody ?
It has been on all the news and in the papers too and still is today |
Re: Shocking Scenes in Madrid.
Originally Posted by steviedeluxe
(Post 11189575)
Chopera was referring to the fact that no-one at the organised demo (which was day-time) saw the violence. I did look at your youtube clip, and it was obviously a night-time incident by hooligans. You'll see worse unfortunately if you go and watch Man U - Liverpool or Chelsea - West Ham. Or even Sevilla- Betis if what I've been told is correct.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...type=2&theater about 1m.16s is quite funny |
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