Thats not what the poster was meaning! The poster said "it is illegal to rebroadcast UK programs unless you have a licence" meaning permission / contract / lisence from the channels to do so. And that the BBC and ITV do not hold the european rights / broadcast lisences for transmission outside the UK and ROI. So you saying "itv is a commercial channel no licence is required" is not correct.

Anyone wanting to stream or rebroadcast ANY TV / radio channel MUST have permission from those channels / copyright holders, as per international and EU copyright law.

Zattoo do stream channels, but only in the countries you are allowed to...so in spain you can only get spanish channels on Zattoo, in the uK only english channels, as the channels available to you are decided by your IP address. And they do have contracts to do so in many countries...

in fact there are only a few cable compnaies in Holland and Switzerland that have contracts to make bbc channels / programmes available in their own country, and for other countries most of the BBC contents nonuk rights are held by BBC Worldwide / BBC Prime.

People often quote the Eu Directive "television without frontiers", and incoprrectly assume that, as the title suggest, you can access any tv channels whereever you are in the UE without permission, and that it is legal to rebreadcast / stream these channels. However, what many people fail to read is the part in the same directive that states that copyright laws must also be adhered to, meaning streamers and rebroadcasters must get the relevabnt permission to do so. This will also apply when TVwF is officially renamed "Audio Visual Directive"...which should be integreated into EU law by the 19th December 2009...and many people have mistakenly assumed that his means that all TV channels across the EU must be freely available...
the directive states"The Directive aims to ensure the free movement of broadcasting services within the internal market" and many people assume this mean you should have access to all TV in the EU...even an english "newspaper" made this assumption (http://satandpcguy.com/forum/round-t...bull-t383.html) , but again, the report did not mentioned the part of the directive concerning COPYRIGHT! and it is this COPYRIGHT that is the reason as to why TV channels cannot be made easily accessable to areas that copyright is not agreed.
i think it is 89/552/eec subsection 2 b 5 that broadcasters copyright permission in the eu
and as part of the change from TVwF to the AVD directory includes references to internet based systems, and now means internet TV / media services are covered by EU copyright law, and Iplayer services have to be regulated just as they would if they were a TV channels.

So please can you post your lisence / documentation to prove that you have managed to get a permission to make UK TV channels available outside their licensed areas, or that gives you exemption from EU and International copyright law. If it was legal and correct to do then would not the UK TV companies do this themsleves and earn money to help suppliment their programming costs, and reduced the UK TV lisence fee, rather then let third party companies, who will not pay the UK TV companies any money, rip off their channels.
And it is totally different to receiveing Overspill signals direct from the satellite - which is why people can legally receive free UK TV channels directv from the satellite.

First off all i think you should understand what you preach and second off all why would i display private and personal documents online which is ilegal, either your very good at your job!! or your just to forward and people sniff you out like a bad smell, why would a general person of the public ask a complete strange to produce legal documents via the web think not so i will leave you guessing but rules are rules and where this forums rules, so please do not reply to me again, and goodluck with snooping and catching people out in the future but as you dont know me, please refrain from asking a strange for legal documents, you could find yourself in trouble, show me your legal satellite box and satellite the ones that show bbc in spain which is illegal on all your decoded and scrambled boxes or your just a uk snoop trying to catch us out well like i said good luck my reply was not intended for you.

there you go, one of many many free to air satellite boxes that can be used to view the free to air unencrypted bbc channels legally in spain.

as i posted on another expat forum where you said that viewing of free to air tv channels via satellite was illegal, the viewing of free to air satellite tv channels (like BBC channels and 1000's more) from ANY country direct from the satellites is not illegal. the TV companies may not like it, in which case they have two options: encrypt or put them on a weak satellite frequency - hence big satellite dishes.

they stop the online distribution of their channels on the internet but use of their IP checkers, that block access to their iplayers.

but other third parties, decide to provide these blocked services, without permission from the uk tv companies, and without payment. Again, if you can do this, why can the actual UK TV broadcasters not do this so clients can actually get their programming "direct from the horses mouth" and not via a third party? And again, if the UK TV companies could do this they would as it would be a great help in generating income.

if we go by your statement, then ALL Free to air satellite receivers (including a sky box without a sky card!) sold in all electronic shops (leeroy merlin, tien21, etc), would also be illegal - including all D+ (spains satellite recivers) as they can even pick up the german channels that are on the astra satellites that D+ uses. So D+ must be opertaing illegally also by allowing their receivers to have access to non Spanish channels....even a sky box, with a dish pointing at some other european satellites can actually receive TV chanels from non UK companies...so by your statement Sky is operating illegally even in the UK!!!! even freesat receivers have the ability to view free to air channels from other countries... so thats quite a bold statement you have made then!

Secondly, you are the one that was getting confused between the UK TV License and a license to rebroadcast / stream / provide TV via the internet.
to prove what you claim.
You brought up the point you have permission from the UK TV companies to rebroadcast / stream / provide TV via the internet, all I asked for was evidence that you do have this permission, as I find it hard to beleive that this was granted by all UK TV companies on your service (only a select few European TV companies (like those in Switzerland and Holland) do have permission), or if you have no permission from the UK TV companies on your service, documentation / legislation that exempts you from breaches in copyright. Or if you think you are covered by national / european / international law you should be able to provide an online link as most of those laws ar available electronically and already in the public domain.

Who cares, buy ur big dish, get your contract set up however and watch what u want, the key thing is not to get suckered by the Re-Broadcasters and lose money.