Mitz, they may not have the road blocks, but they sure as hell have the testers.

Been using the biodiesel for 12 months now with no problems. If your worried about using it mix it 50/50 with the normal stuff.

that road chips are bk chips ? , just pull in to bk and ask for a buger and a fill up Ha ha ha

Yeah, done a check on my postcode and its £1.20.8..............................so what does that prove?



I am fully aware of the hierarchy and structure of the masons..................thanks.

If you want to know anything about it, just ask. OK?

OK, I have to come back to this.



Diesel production, by its nature is one of the easiest to produce, it takes less refining than say super unleaded, and while diesel demand has risen over the last 5 years diesel supply and production here in the UK has fallen.


Now what can explain this I wonder?


Maybe its all about controlling price?


So who sets the price of a barrel of oil?

Its not just Opec, it is also the independent refineries, something that is happening more and more as governments around the world privatise the price and control of production.




As I have said, its not just that the guy is a Mason, its also that I have never had cause to distrust the guy.....................now if you think he is full of shit that's fine, but its his industry that he is commentating on, as far as I can understand you are simply a lowly car salesman so how can you make a comment?

I can quite believe it - just seems to go up and up - even when the barrels cost less its not often they drop the prices - we should do what the French do and bring the country to a stand still but we dont have the balls to do that here - well id be up for it

Now I have been told that my Discovery will run on veg oil quite happily but I will need to modify the fuel filter as it will clog quickly.......................any idea on the truth behind that?

I know on lorries they are advised to change there fuel filter every 2000 miles - dont know about cars though - hubby runs his van on half and half diesel and oil

Yeah I have heard from other Disco owners that in winter they run half and half or there abouts but I just need to know for sure.

Son did say sommat about if you keep it in a garage they should be ok coz it goes gloopy in cold temperatures - but not sure what vehicle hes on about - was talking to hubby at the time n he drives a ford transit - sorry Matt not much help i know

You see a friend of mine runs his Renault van on pure veg oil he buys from Lidl and while EVERYONE tells him its not possible he still runs his bloody van!

Mind you if we all start using veg oil - the price of that will rocket and the price of diesel will drop - bobs your uncle

Matt, try here http://www.landyworld.co.uk/vegoil.htm
Tim

Proves you should get gasoline from a cheaper area or move!

Step away from the hand bag mate, wasn't meant to be personal..

As far as it's his industry, he's just a salesman... he has a supplier and he supplies the goods, it could be gasoline, or could be baked beans.. it's not rocket science to supply it, nor do you actually need to know something about it to be able to do it.

Now maybe he does, but maybe he doesn't, but you don't need to know about a product/item you sell to sell it, especially when it's a product the vast majority of the world needs, like gasoline, it sells itself.

Prices of gasoline has shot up because of the demand for it has risen drastically due to developing nations like China, India etc etc. Now I never said anything of the sort that this is the only reason why it's higher, but it's the main contributing factor since there is less oil to go around so the basic price of a barrel of oil is higher. Opec are not doing anything to 'help' the situation, now I have no idea why.. perhaps because they want to keep supply going longer or perhaps the cynics around could say it's to keep the prices artificially high.

But the FACT of the matter is we didn't have such increases before the war(s) and the above developing nations didn't need as much oil.

Sorry if i touched a nerve about the Masons but general public are not aware about the fundamentals of the proper organization and the joe bloggs who runs a car lot but has a funny hand shake kinda deal.

By the way, You have absolutely no idea what I am, or what I do for a living, selling luxury cars is ALL you know, so do not assume something you are completely unaware of. I did not assume your friend was an idiot or in the 'wannabe masons' but I just pointed out there were two and who knows which kind he was as people who are in the proper version do not speak of it and being able to pinpoint how much a barrel of oil will be worth at Christmas is just insanity, if you can no see this, then that's more of your own problem, not mine. That is all..

Any Tom, Dick or Harry could say it's going to increase in price, because the chances are yes it will, but pinpointing it to a round figure? LOL If 'one' could do that they're lost in their present job as they should be working on wall street!

Now play nice and put your toys back in your pram.

FYI, I've just had a quick google and it seems that Oil refinery processes have not increased in price that much over the past years, Just the price they buy Crude oil for has, which is directly controlled by Opec as they can control the supply for the current demand for Crude oil, until it runs out of course.