Originally Posted by rugbymatt

Cool eh?


Sadly I found out that part of my family are scousers, my aunt is a genealogist and she has discovered we are part of some bloody family group in Liverpool called the Taylors and the Bonds.

I'm told that they financed the liver birds and a big civic building. They were Temperance or methodists or something.

Originally Posted by brisca

IIn fact, I remember reading that Keith Walters' wife (in her academy) prefers teachers who are from the home counties, in terms of accent and ease of understanding.
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Originally Posted by keithwalters

Yes, it´s true. I´m not sure if she would ever say it to a candidate´s face or not, but a fully qualified, experienced teacher with a broad scouse/geordie/or whatever accent would definitely cause my OH concerns about giving them employment.

They don´t necessarily need to speak BBC English, but a soft, southern/nuetral accent is best.

Originally Posted by Lochy

Are people deliberately trying to provoke me today!!??!

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy

perhaps you're easily prevokable

Originally Posted by Fortaleza

From a pedagogical standpoint, accents are very much not good. Learn the language as pure as possible - the equivalent of Recieved Prononication/BBC English - which in Spain would be the Valladolid/Castilla Leon region then start to assimilate the accent.

Spanish people for example attempting to learn English, would they be better off from day one trying to learn broad-Jimmy-Nail-esque Geordie English or from a thick Glaswegian accent??

However should they learn English first then spend some time in Newcastle or Glasgow it would be only natural that these accents would creep into their already learnt English.

As I said in an earlier post let the accent capture you not you capture the accent

Originally Posted by brisca

I agree with both Carol & John AND Fortaleza,

Accents are good! Wouldn't it be boring if we all spoke in excatly the same way!?

However, in terms of learning Spanish (or any other language) I agree that it's far more helpful to learn the "purest" form possible.
In fact, I remember reading that Keith Walters' wife (in her academy) prefers teachers who are from the home counties, in terms of accent and ease of understanding.

When I was very young (and being a home counties girl ) sometimes I couldn't understand my own father............because at that time he had a very strong Liverpudlian accent!!

A Spanish friend who lived in Nottingham for 5 years, said she had no problems understanding her colleagues - unless they were from Newcastle or Glasgow!
(And she was told that some of her British colleagues couldn't always understand them either )

I learnt some basic Spanish before moving here, and my teacher was from Madrid.
When we moved here to Extremadura, it was like I was hearing a completely different language!!
I am now reasonably well tuned in to Extremenos, but I try to use the "proper" Spanish that I originally learned - even if it's yet another thing that makes me stick out here!
Nevertheless, I do slip into the local dialect fairly often

Friends in the village openly say that Extremenos is not a good example of spoken Spanish.

Originally Posted by Carol&John

hhhmm, I like these puzzles!
Hopefully, it's nothing to do with breastfeeding?
My guess: pan para dos?
Carol

Originally Posted by Fortaleza

Hi Carol,

Sorry I'm late. Been really busy and now trying to organise a BBQ on my roof terrace for 27 hungry Spaniards (and a couple of Brits!!!) so I'm currently fingers full of marinade although the spicy chicken with tikka marinade is mucking up my keyboard. Anyhooo....

CORRECT

Papadó = pan para dos. Not to be confused with the oft heard Papatré.


Also, there's the problem of many Spaniards not knowing how to spell their own language, for example Sevo Bibo or Sebo Bibo can be seen on many a sign round these parts!!!

But my favourite - I've cracked it befor and I'll crack it again because it amuses me so much - their top dog is King Juanca

Sorry, I'm juvenile!!

Originally Posted by Fortaleza

Papadó = pan para dos. Not to be confused with the oft heard Papatré.

Originally Posted by Lochy

There's a shop here selling kitchen equipment, plates and cutlery etc called Paco Merbien. Gettit!?

Originally Posted by keithwalters

Ok. I´ll admit to having sat here for a while trying various pronounciations for Paco Merbien but I still can´t get it. Can you explain pleeeease?


And Fortaleza - King Juanca? yes, VERY childish.

Originally Posted by Lochy

That's no fun, can't just give it away. Anyone...?

Must admit i just thought it was the guy who owned the shop for months before I realised.

Originally Posted by keithwalters

Well if it took you months to get the joke don´t expect us to be that patient!!

I suppose the first word is Pack, but thereafter I´m stuck.

Originally Posted by Lochy

Yeah, but i didn't realise it was a joke! You've started badly, that's not the first word.