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Mitzyboy Jul 2nd 2009 11:41 pm

Re: Prices of British goods
 

Originally Posted by jdr (Post 7719964)
Despite the amount of Brits around Fuengirola and Benalmadena, Iceland are near us and have had to drop their prices quite a bit lately to compete with the Spanish shops etc.

Exactly.

We have Trotters Independent Trading Warehouse in Pedregeur (:eek:)
We have Kwik Save
We have an English supermarket in town
Iceland about 10 kms away

What I do notice is that in the English supermarket, no one goes there to properly shop. They go there for a jar of Marmite or something when they have been to Murkydonna ..... maybe thats why the English supermarket its for sale

Go to the local market for cheap trainers or shoes .... €5, €10 or something like that. Even the local low cost shoe stores are all over the place

I dont mean to be discouraging, but the competition here will be fierce.

v3e Jul 2nd 2009 11:44 pm

Re: Prices of British goods
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 7719949)
Have you actually thought to research how many ex pats actually bother to search out UK foods when Spanish eqivalents are often better and cheaper?

I'd bet you'd find that the average shopping basket only contains a small percentage of such foods and that building a business on it when there are already so many doing it over here would be possibly folly :)

There are some products that can never be replicated, expat's may not be the main target, but tourists, who have forgoten to pack something - i feel most would prefer to buy the english brand they know rather than an spanish alterantive for some goods, if supplied at the correct price. Theres plenty of oppurtunity. However, demand is a factor, which by asking here i was hoping to gain an insight. I have several potential ideas, so if i research them all, i may get lucky and find a winner

v3e Jul 2nd 2009 11:47 pm

Re: Prices of British goods
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 7720000)
Exactly.

We have Trotters Independent Trading Warehouse in Pedregeur (:eek:)
We have Kwik Save
We have an English supermarket in town
Iceland about 10 kms away

What I do notice is that in the English supermarket, no one goes there to properly shop. They go there for a jar of Marmite or something when they have been to Murkydonna ..... maybe thats why the English supermarket its for sale

Go to the local market for cheap trainers or shoes .... €5, €10 or something like that. Even the local low cost shoe stores are all over the place

I dont mean to be discouraging, but the competition here will be fierce.

I think certain parts of Spain will have higher competition than others, its just finding that untouched part with the correct target audience. And also crunching the numbers to work out costs of supplying and at what price these items need to be sold to make a profit.

Hondon Voyager Jul 3rd 2009 12:22 am

Re: Prices of British goods
 

Originally Posted by v3e (Post 7720027)
I think certain parts of Spain will have higher competition than others, its just finding that untouched part with the correct target audience. And also crunching the numbers to work out costs of supplying and at what price these items need to be sold to make a profit.

:) Good luck ,but it will be bloody tough

HBG Jul 3rd 2009 12:45 am

Re: Prices of British goods
 
I live in an area with an extremely high British expat population, which has been established for more than 20 years now. All British tastes are catered for, from Marmite to Eastenders on television. A chain of British supermarkets, Johnsons, seemed to be the most successful, but they've just closed down.

But, then, so have Woolworths, and I wouldn't want to put any entrepreneur off, as long as they don't want to buy a bar in Spain.

This might be useful, though. I went shopping yesterday and looked for Boddington beer, for a visitor. I couldn't find it anywhere.

jackytoo Jul 3rd 2009 1:14 am

Re: Prices of British goods
 

Originally Posted by v3e (Post 7720027)
I think certain parts of Spain will have higher competition than others, its just finding that untouched part with the correct target audience. And also crunching the numbers to work out costs of supplying and at what price these items need to be sold to make a profit.


If there is an untouched part it probably won't have any ex-pats. Maybe better to target the spanish with some items they can't get in Spain. Clothes aren't cheap here unless they are tat.

jdr Jul 3rd 2009 1:35 am

Re: Prices of British goods
 

Originally Posted by v3e (Post 7720019)
There are some products that can never be replicated, expat's may not be the main target, but tourists, who have forgoten to pack something - i feel most would prefer to buy the english brand they know rather than an spanish alterantive for some goods, if supplied at the correct price. Theres plenty of oppurtunity. However, demand is a factor, which by asking here i was hoping to gain an insight. I have several potential ideas, so if i research them all, i may get lucky and find a winner


I don`t think tourists get on here much, too busy cooking themselves. :D

v3e Jul 3rd 2009 1:35 am

Re: Prices of British goods
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 7720357)
If there is an untouched part it probably won't have any ex-pats. Maybe better to target the spanish with some items they can't get in Spain. Clothes aren't cheap here unless they are tat.

Indeed, i think clothes seem to be quiet expensive in many european countries. I think sports clothes are somehwat popular, as whenever i holiday i always tend to see a sports store. I read an article that primark opened some spainish stores? Is this true and is it anything like the UK counterpart?

Rotor Jul 3rd 2009 1:45 am

Re: Prices of British goods
 
I`d be very very cautious with this venture , it`s all been done before many times over ,it will be so critical to get your location right plus you will have to import an artic load at a time to make it cost effective, could you unload and store this much? ,Most inportantly have you successfuly run a businees of this type in the U.K? ,if not it`s doubtfull you will survive, it`s much harder to make a living here,much more red tape and B.S,especially with employee`s ,
I may sound negative but Ive been in business here for over 4 years and only make a fraction of what I made in the U.K ,

Rgds

Rotor

Mitzyboy Jul 3rd 2009 2:13 am

Re: Prices of British goods
 

Originally Posted by v3e (Post 7720027)
I think certain parts of Spain will have higher competition than others, its just finding that untouched part with the correct target audience. And also crunching the numbers to work out costs of supplying and at what price these items need to be sold to make a profit.

As someone said, the untouched areas will have few expats, therefore no market


Originally Posted by v3e (Post 7720019)
There are some products that can never be replicated, expat's may not be the main target, but tourists, who have forgoten to pack something - i feel most would prefer to buy the english brand they know rather than an spanish alterantive for some goods, if supplied at the correct price. Theres plenty of oppurtunity. However, demand is a factor, which by asking here i was hoping to gain an insight. I have several potential ideas, so if i research them all, i may get lucky and find a winner

OK, what would you be talking about product wise? I'm honestly not trying to be overly negative, I'm just not sure that you are aware if you walk into any supermarket you will get such things such as "English" toothpaste etc, the kind of stuff that a holidaymaker would forget.


Originally Posted by v3e (Post 7720402)
Indeed, i think clothes seem to be quiet expensive in many european countries. I think sports clothes are somehwat popular, as whenever i holiday i always tend to see a sports store. I read an article that primark opened some spainish stores? Is this true and is it anything like the UK counterpart?

I really think you need to come over here and see for yourself. In Gandia there is a discount Corte Ingles that sells very cheap clothing, and more importantly they are highly visible. I havent seen Primark.

Over here its the Crisis, and everyone is cutting prices, at least in this area. For what you are suggesting, you need to do a lot of research which means coming here and seeing it for yourself ;):)

torrebloke Jul 3rd 2009 2:57 am

Re: Prices of British goods
 
Dave
I can speak from experience, after spending 2 years working local markets/car boot sales in the Torrevieja area.
I found, baked beans, spaghetti, beans and sausage were always popular.
Brand names are not always the best value, we sold more Tesco value and then Bookers own brand beans than any other.
Dried product such as; dumpling mix, batter mix and suffing excellent sellers.
Where are you planning on basing your business as this may be a factor of what you sell more of.
Jelly and instant whip great for families with children, rice pudding and ready brek style cereal for the older population.
Drop me a line on my email:
[email protected]
I would be more than happy to bounce ideas around with you, as I say I have got a lot of experience of food retail.
We ran a standard 200 lines across tinned and dried products with seasonal extras (Easter Eggs, Mince pies, Christmas cakes etc.).
Good luck with the venture.

valenciatim Jul 3rd 2009 3:00 am

Re: Prices of British goods
 

Originally Posted by torrebloke (Post 7720637)
Dave
I can speak from experience, after spending 2 years working local markets/car boot sales in the Torrevieja area.
I found, baked beans, spaghetti, beans and sausage were always popular.
Brand names are not always the best value, we sold more Tesco value and then Bookers own brand beans than any other.
Dried product such as; dumpling mix, batter mix and suffing excellent sellers.
Where are you planning on basing your business as this may be a factor of what you sell more of.
Jelly and instant whip great for families with children, rice pudding and ready brek style cereal for the older population.
Drop me a line on my email:
[email protected]
I would be more than happy to bounce ideas around with you, as I say I have got a lot of experience of food retail.
We ran a standard 200 lines across tinned and dried products with seasonal extras (Easter Eggs, Mince pies, Christmas cakes etc.).
Good luck with the venture.

Can I ask why did you stop?

steviedeluxe Jul 3rd 2009 3:01 am

Re: Prices of British goods
 
Careful torrebloke! You'll have the mods on your back - you're not supposed to put an email link in a message. Asking for PMs (private messages) should suffice...

jdr Jul 3rd 2009 3:02 am

Re: Prices of British goods
 

Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 7720643)
Careful torrebloke! You'll have the mods on your back - you're not supposed to put an email link in a message. Asking for PMs (private messages) should suffice...

They are only removed for privacy reasons, but perhaps he likes Spam. ;-))

steviedeluxe Jul 3rd 2009 3:04 am

Re: Prices of British goods
 

Originally Posted by jdr (Post 7720649)
They are only removed for privacy reasons, but perhaps he likes Spam. ;-))

Now there's an idea! Tins of Spam!!:rofl:


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