Relampago

It is not necessary to expect impartiality of " El Pais ". In Spain, the Media are politicized, and " El Pais "belongs to PRISA group, it is almost as PSOE to say

agoreira

The problem is that the likes of Lampy have been brought up surrounded by corruption, it's accepted, it's the norm, from the top to the bottom. The donations to PP never came from the public purse, so that's fine, lets ignore the fact they are bribes. El País is biased, so it can't be true. (bit like the Daily Mail!) The fact all the other papers are covering the story is ignored by Lampy and co.. Also covered by international press
Unlike the Spanish, they all see it very differently.

steviedeluxe

Yep it's almost as if "cash 4 questions", "Mandy gets caught out/resigns/comes back into govt", "expenses scandals" never happened, is it?
Anyone read much about Lord Ashcroft and his manner of influencing policy and candidates with his donated millions? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael...Baron_Ashcroft
No, it obviously doesn't exist in the UK.
listen to the tag-team of aggy and J2 (who bizarrely never ever clash in opinions on this board - wonder if they play the same game on other boards?)
"UK good Spain bad".

jackytoo

The german press aren't too pleased about rajoy's bunch of crooks either:

Los periódicos 'Berliner Zeintung', 'Berliner Morgenpost' y 'Die Welt' llevan, en portada o en páginas interiores, el devenir de la polémica. "Un escándalo pone a Rajoy contra las cuerdas y pone en peligro la cumbre hispano alemana", asegura 'Berliner Morgenpost'. 'Berliner Zeintung' se muestra menos agresivo: "El presidente español se defiende contra la sospecha de dinero negro". Y 'Die Welt', de tirada nacional, expone: "Corrupción, Rajoy tiene que explicar la credibilidad del PP".

steviedeluxe

Seems there's been football match fixing across Europe, including the UK

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21319807

jackytoo

Even if the UK, USA, Germany ...yadda yadda were more corrupt (and the world doesn't agree) it doesn't make Rajoy and the PP look any better. Seems worse as they have had so many billions of handouts and bailouts from the rest of Europe.

Domino

now if that was true then that would really be corruption, but the handouts and bailouts have gone to the country and not individuals (unless you can prove otherwise)

the so called Barcenas Papers seem to be doubtful, at least in part, having suddenly surfaced although he was first investigated several years ago and there appear to be indications that some appear to have been written at the same time although covering long periods.
did he compile them over the last couple of years to drop as an atomic bomb as he felt he was being investigated too deeply.?
How did he have €22million in Switzerland that has only just come to light because of an arrangement between Revenue offices??

there is every chance this is a dirty thief implicating innocent people - so just because he has floated paperwork has shifted the onus on to others to prove their innocence. But it doesnt detract from his guilt.

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Lynn R

And I see Chris Huhne has just quit as an MP after admitting perverting the course of justice in the speeding offence where for the last ten years he has been protesting his innocence and claiming his ex-wife was driving. As recently as last week he attempted to have the case against him thrown out as "abuse of process".

There doesn't seem to be an honest one among the lot of them, anywhere.

Domino

surely just a reflection of the constituents they represent ??

jackytoo

Well many of the grants the Kings son-in-law fed into his own bank account were European grants.

Seems all the world believes the PP scandal except a couple of ex-pats

Pocaloca

Touchée ...

But they apologised prominently next day!

cricketman

...and some staunch PP supporters

The PP are corrupt and anti-democratic. They are essentially fascists after all. They only care about themselves and their friends and families

cricketman

Yes, El Pais is an excellent newspaper. Much better than the heavily-editorially-led UK papers

There are many awful Spanish newspapers though

Another excellent Salvados programme last night. El Pais and Salvados help me keep some optimism about the future of Spain and the intelligence of the people that live here

Pocaloca

No, the public money was used to award contracts to companies they owned to build things nobody wanted.

jackytoo

I don't know the postion now but a few years ago the major shareholders in Spanish newspapers were developers! There was a TV programme about it.