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jackytoo Sep 7th 2009 2:20 am

Re: Outdoor life
 

Originally Posted by goaty (Post 7911166)
Stupid irresponsable people start fires. I mentioned that we are not tourists to highlight the fact that we know what to do, where to go etc etc


Not just arrogant, an idiot and rude too. No you don't know what to do, neither does anyone else.

missbad Sep 7th 2009 3:40 am

Re: Outdoor life
 

Originally Posted by dmu (Post 7911299)
Hi, zapping from the France forum...
This summer we put up a couple of traps (similar to wasp traps) with pheromones that attract the male butterflies. A large number were drowned, so we hope that fewer female butterflies will be laying fewer eggs, leading to fewer caterpillars next year.... We bought these traps from a company in Lyon via Internet - there's sure to be a similar company in Spain.
If you've got nests in your garden, you can cut the branches off in the winter and burn them (take care to wear gloves, otherwise you'll get itchy spots). Not much you can do about the caterpillars once they start processing, except stamp on them all!
Unfortunately, dogs don't realize the danger of touching them. Our neighbour's dog tried to eat one last year and half his tongue was burnt off.:(





Poor dog. :(

goaty Sep 7th 2009 4:02 am

Re: Outdoor life
 

Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 7910894)
"Firstly we are responsable,(sic) we have done it many times."


Sorry my English can´t be as good as your Spanish.

goaty Sep 7th 2009 4:10 am

Re: Outdoor life
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 7911356)
Not just arrogant, an idiot and rude too. No you don't know what to do, neither does anyone else.

Another jobsworth, there is no limit.

Get your head around the fact that we went fully prepared to a suitable place
for barbecues. The ranger would not have allowed us, if he thought there was a high risk. Now in Cádiz there just happens to be a lot of water, watery ground hmmmmm......

celestine Sep 7th 2009 5:56 am

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Originally Posted by goaty (Post 7910483)
A ranger came past as theoretically we shouldn´t have been there, but as I was with all Spaniards he told us to just be careful and went about his day.

http://www.euroweeklynews.com/200908...rest-fire.html

Throughout my time living here in Spain I have seen many blind eyes turned to the law, children riding in cars without seat belts, mobile phone use whilst driving, consumption of alcohol then taking control of a vehicle, riding mopeds without head protection or with toddlers balanced on the front of the bike. The fact that a 'blind eye' was turned, that you were with native Spanish people or have friends that are members of the police force would I am sure be of no consolation to anyone losing property or life due to your behaviour. Accidents happen and with the best will and knowledge in the world fire is a powerful entity unto itself and personally I would hate to have death and destruction on my conscience. The laws in all countries are there for a reason and when we are constantly seeing destruction and loss of life due to fire around the world I am astounded that you should be so flipant in relation to this. Obviously people's choices are exactly that, 'their choices' the consequences can often affect many others who did not make the same choice but somehow get caught up in the aftermath. Your choice...yes. Irresponsible...in my opinion yes.

celestine Sep 7th 2009 6:00 am

Re: Outdoor life
 

Originally Posted by goaty (Post 7911557)
Another jobsworth, there is no limit.

Get your head around the fact that we went fully prepared to a suitable place
for barbecues. The ranger would not have allowed us, if he thought there was a high risk. Now in Cádiz there just happens to be a lot of water, watery ground hmmmmm......

http://www.thinkspain.com/news-spain...fires-in-cadiz

Fred James Sep 7th 2009 6:24 am

Re: Outdoor life
 

Originally Posted by goaty (Post 7911557)
Another jobsworth, there is no limit.

Get your head around the fact that we went fully prepared to a suitable place
for barbecues. The ranger would not have allowed us, if he thought there was a high risk. Now in Cádiz there just happens to be a lot of water, watery ground hmmmmm......

OK OK - let's calm down a bit please.

You did what you thought was acceptable given the circumstances. Others will disagree with you.

Let's just leave it at that and get on with the thread about outdoor living.

goaty Sep 7th 2009 6:45 am

Re: Outdoor life
 

Originally Posted by celestine (Post 7911779)
http://www.euroweeklynews.com/200908...rest-fire.html

Throughout my time living here in Spain I have seen many blind eyes turned to the law, children riding in cars without seat belts, mobile phone use whilst driving, consumption of alcohol then taking control of a vehicle, riding mopeds without head protection or with toddlers balanced on the front of the bike. The fact that a 'blind eye' was turned, that you were with native Spanish people or have friends that are members of the police force would I am sure be of no consolation to anyone losing property or life due to your behaviour. Accidents happen and with the best will and knowledge in the world fire is a powerful entity unto itself and personally I would hate to have death and destruction on my conscience. The laws in all countries are there for a reason and when we are constantly seeing destruction and loss of life due to fire around the world I am astounded that you should be so flipant in relation to this. Obviously people's choices are exactly that, 'their choices' the consequences can often affect many others who did not make the same choice but somehow get caught up in the aftermath. Your choice...yes. Irresponsible...in my opinion yes.


OK you make some valid points and I realise people have lost their properties in the terrible fires.
What I disagree with is people assuming where we held the barbecue. The reason the ranger turned a blind eye was that it was in a place that is suitable to have a barbecue with people who know what they are doing. It´s a bit hard for concrete to catch fire...

Life is not so black and white.

goaty Sep 7th 2009 6:46 am

Re: Outdoor life
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 7911824)
OK OK - let's calm down a bit please.

You did what you thought was acceptable given the circumstances. Others will disagree with you.

Let's just leave it at that and get on with the thread about outdoor living.

OK:thumbup:

Dick Dasterdly Sep 7th 2009 7:02 am

Re: Outdoor life
 

Originally Posted by dmu (Post 7911299)
Not much you can do about the caterpillars once they start processing, except stamp on them all!
(

Just hope you are not serious about stamping on them.
Its one thing that you are advised NOT to do.
The tiny fine caterpillar hairs which are the main danger, very easily become airborne and then your problems can begin.

missbad Sep 7th 2009 7:04 am

Re: Outdoor life
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 7911897)
Just hope you are not serious about stamping on them.
Its one thing that you are advised NOT to do.
The tiny fine caterpillar hairs which are the main danger, very easily become airborne and then your problems can begin.

Hi

So dont stamp on them? xxx:)

jdr Sep 7th 2009 7:15 am

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There has been an article on them in the free beer thread for years warning about them.

jjh Sep 7th 2009 7:21 am

Re: Outdoor life
 

Originally Posted by missbad (Post 7911902)
Hi

So dont stamp on them? xxx:)


Absolutely not, the hairs are poisonous and fly through the air. Don´t handle them or their nests either. Keep children and pets well away from them.

celestine Sep 7th 2009 7:25 am

Re: Outdoor life
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 7911824)
OK OK - let's calm down a bit please.

You did what you thought was acceptable given the circumstances. Others will disagree with you.

Let's just leave it at that and get on with the thread about outdoor living.

so.....when we do manage to fight the wasps, intensity of the sun, hairy beasties and low flying giant beetles when you outdoors it sure is lovely !!!:thumbsup: enjoy the rest of the summer peeps and be safe and happy. C x

dmu Sep 7th 2009 7:44 am

Re: Outdoor life
 

Originally Posted by missbad (Post 7911902)
Hi

So dont stamp on them? xxx:)

No, sorry, I was half-joking, but strange to say, when I did squash a few to break up the procession, I didn't suffer any allergic reaction, whereas, when I cut off the nests (without touching them, just the branches), I had itchy spots all over my hands.


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