I doubt that you and I will ever meet, however if the situation above did occur I would be shoving the kids back up the hole they came out of.

Huh

But if your children behaved in that way (which I'm sure they wouldnt) then they would deserve to be taken to task. The general view is that kids that behave in that way dont know any better because their parents dont keep control of them

I agree

That isn't very pleasant or helpful is it

I find it hard to believe that there are people out there who do not think you are allowed to defend yourself if attacked? The degree of force you are allowed to use depend on the circumstances. If someone tries to mug you, you are certainly allowed to give them a backhander, or even a hard kick in the balls, or two.

To the best of my knowledge, every civilised country has a law which even allows its people to make a citizen's arrest when appropriate. It doesn't even have to be an attack on the citizen himself, an attack on a fellow citizen or property is sufficient.

I saw a news item recently where four robbers used sledgehammers on a shop in Oxford Street. As they made their escape on two motor cycles a brave member of the public tried to kick out at the robbers.

If he had connected it could have caused serious injury to the fleeing robber. Was the member of the public justified in his action?

I don't have to re-state my own views, but I have serious doubts about what other commentators on this thread may think.

Defending yourself against violence or the threat of imminent violence is generally given the widest latitude, while defending property comes next. But that has nothing to do with ejecting the toe rag from the train.

Does he know something we don't? Is Moneypenny fit? Is there more to know about this?

Another stupid disrespectful little tosser.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ing-trial.html

He wasn't even bright enough to get his boyfriend to cover his story and yet he was on jury service.
His parents are obviously just as stupid, bleating on about his sentence even though he was released after only four days.
Gotta wonder how many of them ever do grow up.

I think someone has a womb fixation.

It should make for an interesting spectacle, if nothing else.

Some people's attitude to crime really beggars belief. A couple of months ago a man in Cheshire fatally stabbed a burglar in his house, in the belief that the safety of his wife and children was at risk (for once, common sense prevailed and the police confirmed that he would not face any charges).

The burglar's family put flowers and messages bemoaning his death outside the family's house!!!!! (the family that was burgled, that is).

If that had been my house, I would have demanded that the police remove them immediately, and if they didn't do it, I would have.

I'm quite keen to find out what Moneypenny's gaping hole is like now!

Fanning the flames is great, isn't it?

No flames are being fanned, all that is being pointed out is that we have arseholes in our midst who need to be reminded what they are.

you already know the answer to that H, the mop would be tried in court far quicker than any of the robbers - so the 2 cases could not be linked.
the mop would get a larger sentence.
the robbers would have extenuating circumstances, such as their father was a drunk, their mother left their father, someone stole their teddy bear when they were young.......I won't labour the point.

once we have finished with the flamethrower here perhaps we could lend it to the burgled family.
the laws of stalking could be used to get rid of them .