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The no Doom only positive comment thread
We all seem to be worried about cash/employment here in Spain but although I do not put those thoughts on the back burner I would like to hear your positive things about living here. I know our various locations within Spain vary quiet a lot but maybe some cheer would help those who want to come and live here and weigh up those comments with the sound Economic/Doom gloom advice this forum offers. :thumbsup: remember you have sunshine.
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Heres a piccy of Posh just to get you ......errmmmmmmmm :rofl: She don't come cheap thats for sure.....:blink:
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Great idea for a thread, we could do with some positive thinking. One thing I know for sure is that my health problems diminish after a few days in Spian.:)
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OH used to suffer from gout badly in the UK. Since being here for four years he has never had another attack.
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Our children are healthier and happier since moving to Spain. Off the top of my head, I can't think of anything in life that matters more than that... :)
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The positive attitude of Spanish people.
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Originally Posted by poshnbucks
(Post 6578787)
...thumbsup: remember you have sunshine.
Seriously, some people in this Forum are just Gloom Merchants, with nothing better to do. Well done Posh - I think sometimes you HAVE to remind yourself that Spain is a better place to live than UK, certainly at the moment... I like a lot of things here... this morning I got up and swam - I couldn't afford a pool in UK nor did the British summer allow me the luxury of sun heated water. Lovely way to start the day !!! |
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a lot more freedom for the kids :thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by The Oddities
(Post 6579890)
The positive attitude of Spanish people.
Rosemary Things like the recession are meaningless when you have a positive attitude. A sense of humour is I think the only other requirement. And a pool of course! |
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Originally Posted by Chiclanagir
(Post 6579775)
OH used to suffer from gout badly in the UK. Since being here for four years he has never had another attack.
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Well, the cost of living is less, the weather nicer, like the poster above says, the aches and pains diminish there, the beaches are nicer, the language is fun, the people more outgoing and friendly, the food better, especially the seafood, the tapas are great, the cafe culture delightful, the work/living balance good, there's more community spirit.
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All right, but apart from the cost of living, the weather, the aches and pains diminishing, the beaches, people being more outgoing and friendly, the food (especially the seafood and the tapas) the cafe culture, the work/living balance, and the community spirit, what have the Spanish ever done for us? :)
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Originally Posted by toyboy23
(Post 6580487)
All right, but apart from the cost of living, the weather, the aches and pains diminishing, the beaches, people being more outgoing and friendly, the food (especially the seafood and the tapas) the cafe culture, the work/living balance, and the community spirit, what have the Spanish ever done for us? :)
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Maybe this will cheer you up too.
http://www.expatica.com/es/articles/...y-of-life.html |
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Originally Posted by GrapeEater
(Post 6579987)
I like a lot of things here... this morning I got up and swam - I couldn't afford a pool in UK nor did the British summer allow me the luxury of sun heated water. Lovely way to start the day !!!
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Originally Posted by IT LAD
(Post 6580675)
Yes, that sounds a lovley way to start the day... :)
And end the day too, around midnight when you need to cool down and have a little exercise before bed. I always sleep better after a late night swim. |
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Originally Posted by El Capitan
(Post 6580684)
And end the day too, around midnight when you need to cool down and have a little exercise before bed. I always sleep better after a late night swim.
ok, I am getting jealous now...:) |
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In my opinion that is one hell of a benefit in having your own private pool. You do have to keep the noise down at night but so many shared pools have fixed "opening" hours and you miss out on the early morning, late night and even middle of the night opportunities. It would not be the first time to slip out of bed when it is a little too warm to sleep and cool off in the pool at 30ish degrees which is deliciously warm feeling in the night air but actually quite cooling.
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Originally Posted by El Capitan
(Post 6581074)
In my opinion that is one hell of a benefit in having your own private pool. You do have to keep the noise down at night but so many shared pools have fixed "opening" hours and you miss out on the early morning, late night and even middle of the night opportunities. It would not be the first time to slip out of bed when it is a little too warm to sleep and cool off in the pool at 30ish degrees which is deliciously warm feeling in the night air but actually quite cooling.
So, so, so have to agree with this post, it is the best feeling ever, then to get back into bed and you both have cold bums;) |
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Blimey el Capitan.
Can't wait... :cool: |
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I'd settle for a hot tub and run it cold in the summer.
I listen to all the fretting about the clarity of the water, and all the chems needed to keep it clean, and I just want to laugh. I used to run a fish pools where they crapped in the water all day, and I used to be able to keep them clear as anything without adding any chems. Nope, a pool is so not my thing. Especially with the sea 20 mins away. |
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Originally Posted by bil
(Post 6581570)
I'd settle for a hot tub and run it cold in the summer.
I listen to all the fretting about the clarity of the water, and all the chems needed to keep it clean, and I just want to laugh. I used to run a fish pools where they crapped in the water all day, and I used to be able to keep them clear as anything without adding any chems. Nope, a pool is so not my thing. Especially with the sea 20 mins away. |
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OK, I am so going to ignore that straight line......
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Just flip though these 2 pages of comments......... See your alive everything else will be fine :thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by bil
(Post 6581570)
I'd settle for a hot tub and run it cold in the summer.
I listen to all the fretting about the clarity of the water, and all the chems needed to keep it clean, and I just want to laugh. I used to run a fish pools where they crapped in the water all day, and I used to be able to keep them clear as anything without adding any chems. Nope, a pool is so not my thing. Especially with the sea 20 mins away. |
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Good response bil ;)
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apart from the weather ,beach's ,fresh food ,restuarants,mild winters ,low cost of running a house ,spanish people ,bars ,nightlife ,no hassle car parking ,no speed cameras ,on every corner ,bins emptied every day ,no gangs of feral youth ,(except them on thier jollys in benidorm ),clean and tidy villages ,bueatifull citrus groves ..........on the begining of our glorious 2 year plan to retreat to the costa blanca ,in the words of draggons den ...i'm out
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Originally Posted by stephendutchman
(Post 6582577)
apart from ....... no speed cameras ......
On that one, Spain is getting very full of new speed cameras week by week. http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/3982...plica/sevilla/ |
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Bill o, can you let me have the secret of how to keep pool and Jaccuzzi water clear sometime.I know nothing about these things but will need to find out soon.Thats what I like about forums,you can usually find an expert at most things. Struggling to find an expertise that I can offer at the moment bot mi spollins nit bod.:D
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Originally Posted by george43
(Post 6582666)
Bill o, can you let me have the secret of how to keep pool and Jaccuzzi water clear sometime.I know nothing about these things but will need to find out soon.Thats what I like about forums,you can usually find an expert at most things. Struggling to find an expertise that I can offer at the moment bot mi spollins nit bod.:D
Here's how it works. Most people use sand filters. The muck is trapped in the spaces between the sand, and the water pressure tries to push it thru. The more muck, the more pressure. Some of the muck is shredded and passes thru. This stuff is ultra fine, and the only way you can get rid of it is to add flocculants. These are chems that make the small bits stick together so they are big enough to be caught in the filter. The other thing a sand filter does is to produce nitrates like crazy, and those nitrates/nitrogen + all the wee in the pond are what makes it nice and green. Then you try and clean a sand filter. I've run one on a fish pond, and it did have to trap a lot of crap, but at the end of the day it was physically impossible to clean it. No matter how much I back washed it, more crap would come out. A lot of work. Oh yes, plus, a sand filter requires a high pressure pump to drive it, and they cost big time to run, compared to a low pressure low head pump. A sand filter can be described as a compressive capture filter. OK, so what's the easy way? You use a medium that has a big capture area in a small volume, and you run a smaller, slower volume thru it. A typical medium is called Kaldness - google it if you want more details. Basically it looks a bit like pasta wheels. You put it in a container and either give it a low pressure low head pump that will keep water running thru it SLOWLY, or bleed a bit of the main pump pressure to use it as a parasitic device. It works like this. As the water passes thru it slowly, there are lots of tiny vortices (swirls) and the particles get caught in these and they drop down thru the media. Imagine water flowing slowly down a wide trough with a flat bottom, on which are stood a solid layer of coffee mugs with the opening uppermost. As the water moves over them the particles fall into the mugs, and they sit in the bottom of the mugs until the filter is flushed. Because they are trapped out of the flow, they do not contribute to the nitrogen or particle levels. You'd need to experiment with the size of the container, but I imagine that 100 or so litres might be big enough for the average pool. Using chems will kill bacteria, and that will stop the bacterial action that the second trick requires, but in a more natural, chem free pool, you will, if you get it right, notice that the green will disappear after a week or two as the nitrogen is stripped out. The same trick would work in a jacuzzi, you just need a smaller tank. To kill bacteria, you can hang a lot of silver chains in the filter as the slow released silver ions will rubber duck almost all bacteria. |
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Originally Posted by bil
(Post 6582931)
Well, the secret is pretty simple. This method has two tricks to it. The physical technique of particle capture, and the bacterial one of stripping nitrogen.
Here's how it works. Most people use sand filters. The muck is trapped in the spaces between the sand, and the water pressure tries to push it thru. The more muck, the more pressure. Some of the muck is shredded and passes thru. This stuff is ultra fine, and the only way you can get rid of it is to add flocculants. These are chems that make the small bits stick together so they are big enough to be caught in the filter. The other thing a sand filter does is to produce nitrates like crazy, and those nitrates/nitrogen + all the wee in the pond are what makes it nice and green. Then you try and clean a sand filter. I've run one on a fish pond, and it did have to trap a lot of crap, but at the end of the day it was physically impossible to clean it. No matter how much I back washed it, more crap would come out. A lot of work. Oh yes, plus, a sand filter requires a high pressure pump to drive it, and they cost big time to run, compared to a low pressure low head pump. A sand filter can be described as a compressive capture filter. OK, so what's the easy way? You use a medium that has a big capture area in a small volume, and you run a smaller, slower volume thru it. A typical medium is called Kaldness - google it if you want more details. Basically it looks a bit like pasta wheels. You put it in a container and either give it a low pressure low head pump that will keep water running thru it SLOWLY, or bleed a bit of the main pump pressure to use it as a parasitic device. It works like this. As the water passes thru it slowly, there are lots of tiny vortices (swirls) and the particles get caught in these and they drop down thru the media. Imagine water flowing slowly down a wide trough with a flat bottom, on which are stood a solid layer of coffee mugs with the opening uppermost. As the water moves over them the particles fall into the mugs, and they sit in the bottom of the mugs until the filter is flushed. Because they are trapped out of the flow, they do not contribute to the nitrogen or particle levels. You'd need to experiment with the size of the container, but I imagine that 100 or so litres might be big enough for the average pool. Using chems will kill bacteria, and that will stop the bacterial action that the second trick requires, but in a more natural, chem free pool, you will, if you get it right, notice that the green will disappear after a week or two as the nitrogen is stripped out. The same trick would work in a jacuzzi, you just need a smaller tank. To kill bacteria, you can hang a lot of silver chains in the filter as the slow released silver ions will rubber duck almost all bacteria. |
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I can see where your coming from bil and as fish are extremely senisitve to chlorine, a bio filter is one of the few ways to combat alga growth in a pond. Also mini straw bales work by releasing some natural algicide when they are left in the edge of a pond. I had a bio filter on a fish pond in the UK something like this http://www.aquatics-warehouse.co.uk/...enie_info.html and it worked very well, as it should. I didnt have any antibacterial agent for a pond but UV is just about the most powerful for bacteria and viruses although there is no residual effect.
However, given a modest pool volume of some 80 cubic metres of water, I cannot see how to get the requisite recirculation rate for a bio filter to work with a swimming pool, let alone where to locate the requisite size of aerobic bio filter. You might get away with it for a jacuzzi though. |
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No, no, no and no.
This is a completely DIY setup. The anti nitrogen effect was only noticed comparatively recently by a few of us in the koi keeping fraternity. It is far too cheap and easy to sell, far better to flog sand filters that look value for money. All you need is a water tank like the header tanks that go in the loft, and a way to fill it up and turn off the water while you agitate the media to clean it. Then a tube out the bottom with a stopcock to drain it to waste. The whole setup would only cost a small amount, and can give amazing clarity. If you shine a torch into the water, you can test particulate contamination by observing how much scatter there is. If you can't see the beam, it is spotless. I used to be able to tell if a coin was heads or tails at the bottom of 8 feet of water. Don't forget, that's with 40 odd scaly sh*t machines doing their best to filth the water up. Captain, barley is a waste of money. It works, but it adds to the organic contamination, which is one of the harder pollutants to control even with MASSIVE water changes. That green genie is a very crude small pond filter (but good for what it is). Remember I was dealing with up to 40 big koi, 30" plus, and some 18,000 gallons of water. You really need to understand what the water is up to at that scale. pH, KH, nitrates, organics, redox and so on. UV, yes, but very expensive for a big setup, and not as good as ozone, altho ozone really needs knowledgeable handling as that can do more harm than good. Controlling nitrogen, is as easy as having a fine mesh bag of the right media just suspended in the water flow. Think about that when you see all the pond articles re controlling green water and blanket weed. |
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Get back on thread you fishy highjackers :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Get your pond info here http://www.fishpondinfo.com/pond.htm |
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Ooh! This brings it all back, the aquarium days, and trying get a plecostomus off the end of my finger without swearing TOO much in front of the kids. :D
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is finger a euphamism here?
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I apologise in advance to ‘los negativos’, but I have come across some positive news.
Reasons to be cheerful: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7513563.stm |
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Well, the newspapers like nothing better than running round in circles screaming that the sky is falling.
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A year or so ago bil, the papers were full of rising prices, safe investment etc etc just encouraging people to stretch their budget beyond affordability to speculate and those are the poor punters who will feel the current readjustment worst in my opinion. There were a few in the sidelines warning that "this bubble is not sustainable" and I have to agree with them that they were right.
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Originally Posted by poshnbucks
(Post 6578787)
We all seem to be worried about cash/employment here in Spain but although I do not put those thoughts on the back burner I would like to hear your positive things about living here. I know our various locations within Spain vary quiet a lot but maybe some cheer would help those who want to come and live here and weigh up those comments with the sound Economic/Doom gloom advice this forum offers. :thumbsup: remember you have sunshine.
The sunshine and the diversity of the landscape. The fields of dazzling sunflowers. My childs freedom and new friendships with her Spanish friends.:wub: The love of life that is like an aura surrounding those we have met which is infectious. Teachers that love to teach and love the children in their care. Children being children and having fun. Being able to walk around without feeling threatened.:thumbsup: |
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