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Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
Originally Posted by jdr
(Post 8338903)
Quite simple really, move about within the community as being european you are allowed to do, no immigration paperwork needed.
Then apply to emigrate to Canada, Australia, New Zealand or anywhere else outside Europe, then you will find what immigrant means. ;);) I had property in Canada, have family there, but couldn't automatically reside there permanently so I know how difficult it is to get residency. But it's not that easy in all EU states - you do need paperwork and perseverance if you require residency as you do in Spain but in Spain it's much easier than some. I have the right to reside in other EU countries but getting the necessary documentation was a nightmare! |
Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
Originally Posted by johncar61
(Post 8338696)
Well you might be I don't know you, but the majority of us here are not immigrants. We are EU citizens and have just as much right to be here as other EU nationalities have to live in UK.
Brits moving to Spain call themselves expats. |
Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
Originally Posted by azor the mighty
(Post 8338883)
It's also the official UN definition but hey, if you feel that calling yourself an 'expat' gives you some kind of higher status, go ahead.;)
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Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
Can we get this back on topic please
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Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
An expatriate (in abbreviated form, expat) is a person temporarily or permanently residing in a country and culture other than that of the person's upbringing or legal residence. The word comes from the Latin term expatriÄtus from ex ("out of") and patriÄ the ablative case of patria ("country, fatherland").
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Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
Originally Posted by Bigger Jim
(Post 8338971)
An expatriate (in abbreviated form, expat) is a person temporarily or permanently residing in a country and culture other than that of the person's upbringing or legal residence. The word comes from the Latin term expatriÄtus from ex ("out of") and patriÄ the ablative case of patria ("country, fatherland").
Jim Yes, that's true. I did A-Level Latin too.:) So you have both words to choose from. But it's strange how Brits who call themselves 'expats' rarely extend the courtesy to foreign immigrants to the UK, even those from other EU states. When that's common practice, I might consider calling myself an expat too.;) |
Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
Originally Posted by Bigger Jim
(Post 8338971)
An expatriate (in abbreviated form, expat) is a person temporarily or permanently residing in a country and culture other than that of the person's upbringing or legal residence. The word comes from the Latin term expatriÄtus from ex ("out of") and patriÄ the ablative case of patria ("country, fatherland").
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Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
Can't recall meeting an illegal Expat!
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Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
Originally Posted by Bigger Jim
(Post 8339089)
Can't recall meeting an illegal Expat!
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Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
Can't recall meeting an illegal Expat! |
Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
(Post 8338959)
Can we get this back on topic please
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Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 8333284)
Wouldn't the people who are truly integrated spend more time on spanish forums than ex-pat ones:confused:
Most forums are for people who have a common interest, hobbies, or whatever Spanish ones are the same, usually someone is looking for somthing specific One of the main reasons for expat forums is to offer advice to people living an a foreign country. How would a Spaniard who has lived all their life in Spain, know about claiming a British pension, or needing advice about getting a heating allowance or whatever.......... Some seem to have the opinion that being integrated means cutting off and renouncing all ties with their birth country. A point was made about football teams. I grew up supporting an English team, like my friends, because I was "intergrated" in the British way of life. Now I am back in Spain, I still am thrilled when they win, peed off when the lose and shout abuse at the ref when the desicion goes against them. Just because they are now no longer my "local" team, should I forget all the pleasure they have given me over the years? And given the choice of watching my team on one channel, or one that does not particularly interest me, beyond the wanting to watch a game on another channel, the team I have qlway supported winds every time. It seems all this intergration twaddle is just to make others feel bad. Spanish and English do not have very different cultures, not like others. Both go to work to bring home the bread, or bacon. I dont participate in the processions, I even go to see them every year, if youve seen one youve seen them all. I go into what ever nationality restaurant or bar that takes my fancy, as do most of the English and Spanish I know. |
Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
imâ‹…miâ‹…grant   /ˈɪmɪgrÉ™nt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [im-i-gruhnt] Show IPA –noun 1. a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence. 2. an organism found in a new habitat. –adjective 3. of or pertaining to immigrants and immigration: a department for immigrant affairs. 4. immigrating. Use immigrant in a Sentence See images of immigrant Search immigrant on the Web Origin: 1780–90, Americanism; < L immigrant- (s. of immigrÄns), prp. of immigrÄre to move into. See im- 1 , migrant ........... exâ‹…paâ‹…triâ‹…ate   /v. É›ksˈpeɪtriËŒeɪt or, especially Brit., -ˈpætri-; adj., n. É›ksˈpeɪtriɪt, -ËŒeɪt or, especially Brit., -ˈpætri-/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [v. eks-pey-tree-eyt or, especially Brit., -pa-tree-; adj., n. eks-pey-tree-it, -eyt or, especially Brit., -pa-tree-] Show IPA verb, -atâ‹…ed, -atâ‹…ing, adjective, noun –verb (used with object) 1. to banish (a person) from his or her native country. 2. to withdraw (oneself) from residence in one's native country. 3. to withdraw (oneself) from allegiance to one's country. –verb (used without object) 4. to become an expatriate: He expatriated from his homeland. –adjective 5. expatriated; exiled. –noun 6. an expatriated person: Many American writers were living as expatriates in Paris. Use expatriated in a Sentence See images of expatriated Search expatriated on the Web Origin: 1760–70; < ML expatriÄtus (ptp. of expatriÄre to banish), equiv. to ex- ex- 1 + patri(a) native land + -Ätus -ate 1 I didn't know that! Personally, I have not withdrawn any allegiance from the UK. Not sure I really had any to withdraw from. But, to withdraw oneself from their native country compared to a person who migrates to another country isn't really any different is it? |
Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
Originally Posted by cricketman
(Post 8329011)
However, you could say Spain and the UK quite "deserve" all these immigrants since both countries have benefitted so much throughout history of the back of controlling and pillaging other regions of the world.
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Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
Originally Posted by SaritaBarcelona
(Post 8342510)
I always say that to racist family members when they start spouting off... "If England hadn't invaded... (add name of pillaged country)"
We would not have Roast Beef, Cafe, Restaurant, Menu and all the other thousands of foreign words in our vocabulary, and maybe it was the descendants of the invading /occupying Danes, Germans, Romans, French ........ who went on to do the something elsewhere as 'Britons' (This is tongue in cheek) |
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