Leather suite cleaner.
Jul 28th 2007 | 1:06 am
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Re: Leather suite cleaner.
Jul 28th 2007 | 1:16 am
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Jul 28th 2007 | 3:17 am
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Re: Leather suite cleaner.
I'm gonna do a KW now 
Leather used on suites is general split leather (on most DFS suites for instance) its almost the cheapest quality you can get. The leather is split at the tannery, back and front and then tanned / treated. Its very thin, and often its coloured would you believe by being spray painted!
Saddle leather is generally much better quality and not split, and thats why (I'm guessing) you would pay as much for a saddle as a three piece suite from DFS, if not more
Thats why I mentioned that you can use something like low concentration dreft to clean it if you cant get a proper leather cleaner, and a good conditioner afterwards is a must and should be done every 6 months at least. Failing to do it over time can lead to cracking. Saddle soap is oil based, and can actually damage leather if not applied properly as too much oil can seal the leather and in time make it rot, especially here in Spain where the humidity can be high.
I think saddle soap is still used a lot in equestrian quarters, but all I was trying to say that because of the make up differences of the leathers it doesn't always mean that one product is good for both items. Its a geeky thing, I know, but I learnt all this sh!te on a number of courses over 4 years with leather suppliers etc etc. I wish I could forget it all, but it keeps coming back
Finally, can I just point you to the leather section here http://www.hermanmiller.com/hm/conte...tiles_Care.pdf
A large US furniture suppliers advice (Only because Safeclean was a US company and thats the links I have)
Thats my bout of seriousness over for today, I thnak you and goodnight
Leather used on suites is general split leather (on most DFS suites for instance) its almost the cheapest quality you can get. The leather is split at the tannery, back and front and then tanned / treated. Its very thin, and often its coloured would you believe by being spray painted!
Saddle leather is generally much better quality and not split, and thats why (I'm guessing) you would pay as much for a saddle as a three piece suite from DFS, if not more
Thats why I mentioned that you can use something like low concentration dreft to clean it if you cant get a proper leather cleaner, and a good conditioner afterwards is a must and should be done every 6 months at least. Failing to do it over time can lead to cracking. Saddle soap is oil based, and can actually damage leather if not applied properly as too much oil can seal the leather and in time make it rot, especially here in Spain where the humidity can be high.
I think saddle soap is still used a lot in equestrian quarters, but all I was trying to say that because of the make up differences of the leathers it doesn't always mean that one product is good for both items. Its a geeky thing, I know, but I learnt all this sh!te on a number of courses over 4 years with leather suppliers etc etc. I wish I could forget it all, but it keeps coming back
Finally, can I just point you to the leather section here http://www.hermanmiller.com/hm/conte...tiles_Care.pdf
A large US furniture suppliers advice (Only because Safeclean was a US company and thats the links I have)
Thats my bout of seriousness over for today, I thnak you and goodnight
8 Years ago I qualified as a master saddler, its something I still occasionally do, but sadly it is not something that I can make any money in so I do what earns me money.
Leather needs a glycerine high fat conditioner to "condition" it. The majority of propriety conditioners on the market have either glycerine, cocoa butter or beeswax, or all three, the difference is that most of them are very expensive, a bar of Carr Day and Martin saddle soap is £1.50, and there is enough to treat 100 sofas in a bar.
One of the reasons I don't particularly want to go to Sotogrande is that too many people know that I am a saddler there and I don't want to slave for no money in a hot country.
Jul 28th 2007 | 4:10 am
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Re: Leather suite cleaner.
You are just a mine of information....
As mentioned by many, baby wipes do the job, but not the baby its self !!
As mentioned by many, baby wipes do the job, but not the baby its self !!
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Jul 28th 2007 | 4:20 am
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Re: Leather suite cleaner.
All leather is split, it is the same method of producing bridle leather as it is to produce upholstery leather.
8 Years ago I qualified as a master saddler, its something I still occasionally do, but sadly it is not something that I can make any money in so I do what earns me money.
Leather needs a glycerine high fat conditioner to "condition" it. The majority of propriety conditioners on the market have either glycerine, cocoa butter or beeswax, or all three, the difference is that most of them are very expensive, a bar of Carr Day and Martin saddle soap is £1.50, and there is enough to treat 100 sofas in a bar.
One of the reasons I don't particularly want to go to Sotogrande is that too many people know that I am a saddler there and I don't want to slave for no money in a hot country.
8 Years ago I qualified as a master saddler, its something I still occasionally do, but sadly it is not something that I can make any money in so I do what earns me money.
Leather needs a glycerine high fat conditioner to "condition" it. The majority of propriety conditioners on the market have either glycerine, cocoa butter or beeswax, or all three, the difference is that most of them are very expensive, a bar of Carr Day and Martin saddle soap is £1.50, and there is enough to treat 100 sofas in a bar.
One of the reasons I don't particularly want to go to Sotogrande is that too many people know that I am a saddler there and I don't want to slave for no money in a hot country.
Guess all my training was wasted
Can only tell you what I know mate and thats summed up in the link I gave you for leathercare, guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that one
Jul 28th 2007 | 4:21 am
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Jul 28th 2007 | 4:22 am
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Jul 28th 2007 | 4:23 am
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Jul 28th 2007 | 4:23 am
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Jul 28th 2007 | 4:27 am
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Jul 28th 2007 | 4:27 am
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Re: Leather suite cleaner.
Jul 28th 2007 | 4:28 am
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Re: Leather suite cleaner.
There are about 200 Master Saddlers in the UK, live and learn!!
