Learning Spanish
#46
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Re: Learning Spanish
I am absolutely hopeless at learning foreign languages and now I'm knocking on a bit, it's not getting any easier. The weirdest thing is when I'm in Spain I suddenly find I've become fluent in French, and the reverse when I'm in France! I think I have the British disease of frankly rather starving to death than making a fool out of myself by sounding a complete tool through using the wrong word or mispronouncing something!
It doesn't entirely help then when I order in Spanish, in my neck of the woods all the waiters and waitresses speak about six languages, so they reply in fluent English. Although my proudest moment was when the waitress in one of our local restaurants asked me to translate a couple of the dishes on the menu for the benefit of a Dutch couple who spoke English but no Spanish - amazingly; the Dutch normally seem to speak every language under the sun, so I thought that was a bit of a double coup on my part!
I've also bought Rosetta Stone but I'm a bit frightened to even try it. Until I actually live there full time, it's my only hope and I don't want to fail...
A bit pathetic of me, really, but here in England the house is full to the rafters of CDs I've bought that seem to have only taught me that I'm no cunning linguist.
It doesn't entirely help then when I order in Spanish, in my neck of the woods all the waiters and waitresses speak about six languages, so they reply in fluent English. Although my proudest moment was when the waitress in one of our local restaurants asked me to translate a couple of the dishes on the menu for the benefit of a Dutch couple who spoke English but no Spanish - amazingly; the Dutch normally seem to speak every language under the sun, so I thought that was a bit of a double coup on my part!
I've also bought Rosetta Stone but I'm a bit frightened to even try it. Until I actually live there full time, it's my only hope and I don't want to fail...
A bit pathetic of me, really, but here in England the house is full to the rafters of CDs I've bought that seem to have only taught me that I'm no cunning linguist.
#47
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Re: Learning Spanish
Watch Hollywood movies dubbed into Spanish. Usually an infantile plot which is easy to follow. Don't translate... assimilate!
#48
Re: Learning Spanish
Interesting read... I didn't want to start a new thread so hope ok to add my bit here.
I'm new to Spanish but am about intermediate level at Portuguese. I made some errors the way I went about things when I 'learnt' Portuguese.
One possible mistake I made was learning from cds, often the accents are not what you hear in your local area.
So my thinking is to skip buying any language courses and just have lessons from a local teacher - starting with 3 hours a week and possibly increasing if I think she's good and I have time. Does that sound like a reasonable plan, anybody have any tips for a Spanish newbie?
I'm new to Spanish but am about intermediate level at Portuguese. I made some errors the way I went about things when I 'learnt' Portuguese.
One possible mistake I made was learning from cds, often the accents are not what you hear in your local area.
So my thinking is to skip buying any language courses and just have lessons from a local teacher - starting with 3 hours a week and possibly increasing if I think she's good and I have time. Does that sound like a reasonable plan, anybody have any tips for a Spanish newbie?
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Re: Learning Spanish
Interesting read... I didn't want to start a new thread so hope ok to add my bit here.
I'm new to Spanish but am about intermediate level at Portuguese. I made some errors the way I went about things when I 'learnt' Portuguese.
One possible mistake I made was learning from cds, often the accents are not what you hear in your local area.
So my thinking is to skip buying any language courses and just have lessons from a local teacher - starting with 3 hours a week and possibly increasing if I think she's good and I have time. Does that sound like a reasonable plan, anybody have any tips for a Spanish newbie?
I'm new to Spanish but am about intermediate level at Portuguese. I made some errors the way I went about things when I 'learnt' Portuguese.
One possible mistake I made was learning from cds, often the accents are not what you hear in your local area.
So my thinking is to skip buying any language courses and just have lessons from a local teacher - starting with 3 hours a week and possibly increasing if I think she's good and I have time. Does that sound like a reasonable plan, anybody have any tips for a Spanish newbie?
Hard work, but you will reap the benefits.
#50
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Re: Learning Spanish
I had used some cds to begin learning some Spanish before moving here (not as diligently as I should have) but didn't find them very useful. I had lessons with a local teacher (1 hour per day Monday-Friday for the first month, then 2 hours per week in a small group class for 18 months (supplemented by a few one to one classes with my teacher whenever she moved me up a group, which I asked for so that I could make sure I hadn't skipped anything important. What I did find incredibly useful, once I got to the stage where I could keep a conversation going, was to have an intercambio arrangement with a Spanish person who was learning English, where we met twice a week for an hour, and talked for half the time in Spanish then switched to English, correcting each other's mistakes. I did that for the last 6 months of the 18 that I spent also going to classes, and it was invaluable.
Hard work, but you will reap the benefits.
Hard work, but you will reap the benefits.
Last edited by barajoz; Feb 9th 2013 at 9:12 am.
#51
Re: Learning Spanish
your not alone Ive got CDs and loads of books I think you must do whats best for you. I just plod on using every avenue I can
I am absolutely hopeless at learning foreign languages and now I'm knocking on a bit, it's not getting any easier. The weirdest thing is when I'm in Spain I suddenly find I've become fluent in French, and the reverse when I'm in France! I think I have the British disease of frankly rather starving to death than making a fool out of myself by sounding a complete tool through using the wrong word or mispronouncing something!
It doesn't entirely help then when I order in Spanish, in my neck of the woods all the waiters and waitresses speak about six languages, so they reply in fluent English. Although my proudest moment was when the waitress in one of our local restaurants asked me to translate a couple of the dishes on the menu for the benefit of a Dutch couple who spoke English but no Spanish - amazingly; the Dutch normally seem to speak every language under the sun, so I thought that was a bit of a double coup on my part!
I've also bought Rosetta Stone but I'm a bit frightened to even try it. Until I actually live there full time, it's my only hope and I don't want to fail...
A bit pathetic of me, really, but here in England the house is full to the rafters of CDs I've bought that seem to have only taught me that I'm no cunning linguist.
It doesn't entirely help then when I order in Spanish, in my neck of the woods all the waiters and waitresses speak about six languages, so they reply in fluent English. Although my proudest moment was when the waitress in one of our local restaurants asked me to translate a couple of the dishes on the menu for the benefit of a Dutch couple who spoke English but no Spanish - amazingly; the Dutch normally seem to speak every language under the sun, so I thought that was a bit of a double coup on my part!
I've also bought Rosetta Stone but I'm a bit frightened to even try it. Until I actually live there full time, it's my only hope and I don't want to fail...
A bit pathetic of me, really, but here in England the house is full to the rafters of CDs I've bought that seem to have only taught me that I'm no cunning linguist.
#53
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Re: Learning Spanish
Personally I think that cds are useless for learning a language but very good for practicing what you already know so you don't forget anything.
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Re: Learning Spanish
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Its a bit different if your not living in Spain full time.
So we have to find some way of progressing without total immersion .
I agree its not the best way but your vocabulary will improve.
I learn something new everyday.
I do need practice in conversation Spanish tho badly the girls in the village supermarket always help me and are very encouraging.
They are pleased that every time I see them I can converse a little more.At least make myself understood (topics about our families and health and shopping items) But it is still more than I knew 2 years ago I only knew hola and adios.
I am convinced that one day if chip at it I will get there hopefully
So we have to find some way of progressing without total immersion .
I agree its not the best way but your vocabulary will improve.
I learn something new everyday.
I do need practice in conversation Spanish tho badly the girls in the village supermarket always help me and are very encouraging.
They are pleased that every time I see them I can converse a little more.At least make myself understood (topics about our families and health and shopping items) But it is still more than I knew 2 years ago I only knew hola and adios.
I am convinced that one day if chip at it I will get there hopefully
Last edited by DENISE WALTERS; Feb 10th 2013 at 11:30 am. Reason: sp
#56
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Re: Learning Spanish
I find Rosetta Stone frustrating to use the voice recognition is very pedantic , although for learning words as a flash card system it is good but expensive. I quite like the Paul Noble course audio only plus booklet. Same principle as Michelle Thomas but not as tedious or boring. http://www.audible.co.uk/pd?asin=B004FTXNAQ&bp_ua=y
#57
Re: Learning Spanish
I also use duolingo on line which goes through basics I am now looking at verbs ,you can also converse with others as you would with Rosetta I guess,
I dont do this as yet maybe I ought to try.
Its good for consolidating things in my long term mermory which is a free language learning programme, but as I said I do loads of different avenues as it makes learning more fun . As I get bored using the same learnig method.
I dont do this as yet maybe I ought to try.
Its good for consolidating things in my long term mermory which is a free language learning programme, but as I said I do loads of different avenues as it makes learning more fun . As I get bored using the same learnig method.
Last edited by DENISE WALTERS; Feb 10th 2013 at 11:37 am.
#58
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Re: Learning Spanish
My Spanish is getting there slowly but surely - maybe it's the preggers brain:S?
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Re: Learning Spanish
Yes boredom is the worst thing, Got to keep trying though
#60
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Re: Learning Spanish
To a point, but most UK areas now have Spanish there, a language exchange is not difficult. Plus with skype, it doesn't matter where you are, I bet many expats don't sit down for a solid hour speaking in Spanish. We have a weekly meeting here in UK and it's 2 hours of Spanish with a native Spanish speaker, not a word of English. Plus most of the Spanish TV channels are available on internet, there's really no excuse nowadays. Just need to apply ourselves, that's the hard bit!