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rugbymatt Apr 30th 2014 9:08 am

Justice at last!
 
It's early days I know but maybe, just maybe we will see justice for Jean McConville at last!

Sinn Féin leader Gerry Adams held over Jean McConville murder

Domino Apr 30th 2014 8:45 pm

Re: Justice at last!
 
even if they do him for the one will not be enough to cover all the others he was directly and indirectly responsible for. :(

unless he was given one of those "Get out of jail free" letters we have only just heard about.:frown:

EMR Apr 30th 2014 9:03 pm

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He was not " held " he went to the police station himself.
There is no doubt that the leaders of any of the various political groups during the " troubles " Republican or Orange would have got their hands dirty or at least known of those who were carrying out the shootings and bombings.
My great uncles from NI, " Orange to a Man " one was a police superintendant
admitted that the " UDA, UVF " received intelligence and sometimes even tacit support from parts of the security establishment in NI.
No doubt the Republicans received the same in Eire.
Adams my well be guilty but he is not the only one and they come from all sides of the political spectrum in NI.

HBG Apr 30th 2014 9:15 pm

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We. the British, 'forgave' thousands for their crimes in the UK in order to get peace, Adams was only one of many. Will this turn the clock back to the dark days?

If it does it will be the daftest decision made by our judiciary in many years.

rugbymatt Apr 30th 2014 9:28 pm

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 11241995)
He was not " held " he went to the police station himself.
There is no doubt that the leaders of any of the various political groups during the " troubles " Republican or Orange would have got their hands dirty or at least known of those who were carrying out the shootings and bombings.
My great uncles from NI, " Orange to a Man " one was a police superintendant
admitted that the " UDA, UVF " received intelligence and sometimes even tacit support from parts of the security establishment in NI.
No doubt the Republicans received the same in Eire.
Adams my well be guilty but he is not the only one and they come from all sides of the political spectrum in NI.

Yes he has. He may well have handed himself in but he is being held and they are looking into extending his detention. Therefore, he is being held.
Oh and right at the moment I care not a drop about "all the others".... Time will come for them.

andyrich666 Apr 30th 2014 9:36 pm

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 11242020)
Yes he has. He may well have handed himself in but he is being held and they are looking into extending his detention. Therefore, he is being held.
Oh and right at the moment I care not a drop about "all the others".... Time will come for them.

He has denied the allegations, remember like Ken Barlow ect, we was all told to zip it until the outcome of the case, different rules for this is it ?

stuboy Apr 30th 2014 10:15 pm

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Originally Posted by HBG (Post 11242006)
We. the British, 'forgave' thousands for their crimes in the UK in order to get peace, Adams was only one of many. Will this turn the clock back to the dark days?

If it does it will be the daftest decision made by our judiciary in many years.

This my view as well. On the one hand I'm all for justice and on the other I would hate to see sectarian violence reignited because of it. A lot of people in NI have had to swallow many unpalatable things in the name of peace.

Dick Dasterdly Apr 30th 2014 10:15 pm

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At least two of his former colleague have publicly stated that he was responsible for the decision to murder the lady who they had wrongly identified as responsible for passing info to the authorities.

Maybe much depends if they will give official statements or bear witness in court, though I would kind of doubt it, as they would be marked as next on the IRA hit list.

It was pretty common knowledge that he was an obnoxious piece of work with lots of blood on his hands and to my mind an insult to all who suffered at his hands that he was ever allowed to serve in public office.

Fredbargate Apr 30th 2014 10:19 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 11242062)
At least two of his former colleague have publicly stated that he was responsible for the decision to murder the lady who they had wrongly identified as responsible for passing info to the authorities.

Maybe much depends if they will give official statements or bear witness in court, though I would kind of doubt it, as they would be marked as next on the IRA hit list.

It was pretty common knowledge that he was an obnoxious piece of work with lots of blood on his hands and to my mind an insult to all who suffered at his hands that he was ever allowed to serve in public office.

:thumbsup:

scot47 Apr 30th 2014 10:22 pm

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Sub judice. Better not to comment ?

tommy.irene Apr 30th 2014 10:24 pm

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Sinn Féin deputy leader Mary Lou McDonald said the arrest was "politically motivated" and designed to damage the party and its president ahead of the upcoming elections.

andyrich666 Apr 30th 2014 10:34 pm

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Just curious, as a this was my era and when I was at school I did a big piece on IRA bombings, It was my understanding that arsewipe Tony Bliar had given them all immunity under the Good Friday Agreement ?

Im sure there was a similar case not long ago where letters were sent out with the notion that no one can be prosecuted no more ?

Dick Dasterdly Apr 30th 2014 10:40 pm

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Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 11242078)
Just curious, as a this was my era and when I was at school I did a big piece on IRA bombings, It was my understanding that arsewipe Tony Bliar had given them all immunity under the Good Friday Agreement ?

Im sure there was a similar case not long ago where letters were sent out with the notion that no one can be prosecuted no more ?

Cameron said the letters and the decision were a mistake and has recently reversed that ruling.

andyrich666 Apr 30th 2014 10:45 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 11242090)
Cameron said the letters and the decision were a mistake and has recently reversed that ruling.

Interesting that this has reared its head now then, a legal minefield I would say if he is charged.

rugbymatt Apr 30th 2014 10:50 pm

Re: Justice at last!
 

Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 11242030)
He has denied the allegations, remember like Ken Barlow ect, we was all told to zip it until the outcome of the case, different rules for this is it ?

The people he committed the hideous and cowardly act of taking people from their homes in the middle of the night and putting lead in the backs of their heads have all admitted he was involved, one confession came from his former friend who he says he fell out with over the peace process. That's not true and anyone who knows the truth knows why they fell out. You zip it all you like, me, I'm going to rejoice in his arrest, however long it lasts let's hope this puts pay to his political career the murdering scum bag.


Just as an aside, do you know what her crime was? Jean? Do you know why they murdered her and left her 10 kids as orphans to be split up and raised, mainly, in care? She was delivering census forms to try and earn money but these idiots thought she was an informer.


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