Ivanmax is back (Spanish housing bubble)
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Re: Ivanmax is back (Spanish housing bubble)
Still, intelligent people change their minds!
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While it is true that, individually, we can only talk about the small area that we live in and have lived in for a while, most of us also watch the news, including the Spanish news of the country we live in. We also talk to friends and neighbours and even in an area with many expats there will still be a majority of Spanish people, at least that is the case where I live.
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Re: Ivanmax is back (Spanish housing bubble)
Well I'm still looking to buy another property in Spain at this moment
I think you have all been taken in and they have you just where they want you, of course I could be wrong, but if you don't spend much you don't lose much
I think you have all been taken in and they have you just where they want you, of course I could be wrong, but if you don't spend much you don't lose much
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Seriously, you wont convince me this is one big consipracy, it certainly isnt. You think the government or business or whoever you think is planning this is that clever?
I've said time and again, the most important stat is the relationship between average income and average house price. This ratio is still sky high in places like the Costa Del Sol. All we are seeing is a correction happening back to the long term trend. When terraced houses start going for 120k-150k and 2/3 bed flats for 80-100k then we can talk about buying a house as an investment again. We are still some way from seeing those numbers except in the very worst of areas.
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And who would want you to think that?
Seriously, you wont convince me this is one big consipracy, it certainly isnt. You think the government or business or whoever you think is planning this is that clever?
I've said time and again, the most important stat is the relationship between average income and average house price. This ratio is still sky high in places like the Costa Del Sol. All we are seeing is a correction happening back to the long term trend. When terraced houses start going for 120k-150k and 2/3 bed flats for 80-100k then we can talk about buying a house as an investment again. We are still some way from seeing those numbers except in the very worst of areas.
Seriously, you wont convince me this is one big consipracy, it certainly isnt. You think the government or business or whoever you think is planning this is that clever?
I've said time and again, the most important stat is the relationship between average income and average house price. This ratio is still sky high in places like the Costa Del Sol. All we are seeing is a correction happening back to the long term trend. When terraced houses start going for 120k-150k and 2/3 bed flats for 80-100k then we can talk about buying a house as an investment again. We are still some way from seeing those numbers except in the very worst of areas.
Look, you won't see any change until they are convinced that we all think there's no return, it's really as simple as that. they are having to really push it this time.
Don't be falling into the trap of thinking that this is something new and unrecoverable. It's all deliberately done every ten years or so to get the wealthy richer and to keep the poor relying on the wealthy.
Before recovery everyone will have to be convinced that this time there is no recovery in sight.
I don't want to get personal but I think you have been taken in Hook line and sinker. I would take a bet that you are poor? Don't worry you're not alone. Wake up.
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Look, you won't see any change until they are convinced that we all think there's no return, it's really as simple as that. they are having to really push it this time.
Don't be falling into the trap of thinking that this is something new and unrecoverable. It's all deliberately done every ten years or so to get the wealthy richer and to keep the poor relying on the wealthy.
Before recovery everyone will have to be convinced that this time there is no recovery in sight.
I don't want to get personal but I think you have been taken in Hook line and sinker. I would take a bet that you are poor? Don't worry you're not alone. Wake up.
Don't be falling into the trap of thinking that this is something new and unrecoverable. It's all deliberately done every ten years or so to get the wealthy richer and to keep the poor relying on the wealthy.
Before recovery everyone will have to be convinced that this time there is no recovery in sight.
I don't want to get personal but I think you have been taken in Hook line and sinker. I would take a bet that you are poor? Don't worry you're not alone. Wake up.
The magic "they" again. Truely spoken by someone who hasnt a clue
Rich and poor is all relative, 99% of people in the world would call me rich and the other 1% would see me as poor
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Re: Ivanmax is back (Spanish housing bubble)
Another thing
Most folk, if they have a budget of 100 000 they spend 125 000.
Classic mistake.
Most folk, if they have a budget of 100 000 they spend 125 000.
Classic mistake.
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Re: Ivanmax is back (Spanish housing bubble)
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The magic "they" again. Truely spoken by someone who hasnt a clue
Rich and poor is all relative, 99% of people in the world would call me rich and the other 1% would see me as poor
The magic "they" again. Truely spoken by someone who hasnt a clue
Rich and poor is all relative, 99% of people in the world would call me rich and the other 1% would see me as poor
Like I say, you are not alone in your thinking, it's just how "THEY" want it
and I do have a clue
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Btw, if you think it is a good time to buy in Spain, I know some people who are currently selling at 40% off peak prices! You should fill your boots and get yourself a bargain. Only "they" would turn down an offer like that!
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It's important because using "they" makes you sound clinically paranoid and shows that you have no idea about how the economy, government, banking and capitalism work.
Btw, if you think it is a good time to buy in Spain, I know some people who are currently selling at 40% off peak prices! You should fill your boots and get yourself a bargain. Only "they" would turn down an offer like that!
Btw, if you think it is a good time to buy in Spain, I know some people who are currently selling at 40% off peak prices! You should fill your boots and get yourself a bargain. Only "they" would turn down an offer like that!
Might be best you Keep your money in the bank earning nothing
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I am happy to leave it at that and time will show you, that you have been foolish in your thinking, I did say earlier on that I may be wrong, I just doubt it from experience. If you don't learn from that what do you learn from?
Might be best you Keep your money in the bank earning nothing
Might be best you Keep your money in the bank earning nothing
The best time to buy a property isnt actually right at the bottom (which noone can predict), but once prices start rising again on the "upward slope". Until that happens, I'll keep my money in the bank
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Better to be earning 1% interest each year than to be losing 5% of the property value each year.
The best time to buy a property isnt actually right at the bottom (which noone can predict), but once prices start rising again on the "upward slope". Until that happens, I'll keep my money in the bank
The best time to buy a property isnt actually right at the bottom (which noone can predict), but once prices start rising again on the "upward slope". Until that happens, I'll keep my money in the bank
How often do you buy property though?
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I bought my flat in London in 2003 when I was 22 and saw it increase in value by 100k in the first 3 years! Its pretty much still at the 2006 price though and I rent it out which i get a good return from.
I've got a large amount in the bank which I may or may not buy a family house with in Spain to live in, but until prices drop substantially it is still way better financially to rent which we are happy to do.