You wrote this.

EMR stated this

So , you either both understand each other in part in your own individual ways as both statements are similar , or it is a misunderstanding. Or you both think you dislike each other & so feel the need to lock horns.

( I am aware of other considerations but can only go on what I read)

Whichever it is I feel there is no need for this. Not really. It will not find my cousin who, from Tommy.Irene, may have always been lost to me & that has come as a bit of a shock TBH, nor help those unmarried Mums, some of whom may still be alive but who lost their babies and children.

Agree to disagree with whatever you are disagreeing about , although in essence you were both agreeing in a way that atrocity is not acceptable . Go put each other on ignore .

If you do not know how to do this, PM me. I will help.

Shouldn't that be the other way round.

The mass grave of 796 children at a former home for unwed mothers and children in Tuam, Co. Galway is likely not the only one of its kind in Ireland, Prime Minister Enda Kenny has said.

A government investigation launched in wake of the shocking discovery will focus on all of the former so-called ‘mother and baby homes’ in Ireland, it was announced.

Minister for Children Charlie Flanagan is organizing a group of senior officials who will advise the government on the scope of investigation required and the best course of action at the end of the month. http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Har...ten-field.html

Yes. I read that yesterday tommy.irene.

As the OP , what's your feeling or view on all of this please?

Bevs... I hope you can find out more by asking the family and asking the Irish Goverment for files that they have on unmarried mothers in the homes..

........... I THINK SOME OF THE NUNS AND PRIESTS WERE EVIL BASTARDS.

I have just one avenue with the extended family. I did ask before , years ago when I had to go bury my uncle whom I have never met. She , an older 2nd cousin, re-affirmed the Scottish relative thing which I accepted.

Honestly, this is the first I have come to this.


Oh. I have absolutely no doubt there. None at all. I lived with my Mum after all.

If you ask on facebook about your aunt ..you may find someone who knows her ..Goodluck to you..

Thank you.

It's sure got me confused...

Brilliant. I will have to watch the whole debate to see how the opposition dealt with that...

Irish Govt minister reveals she was adopted from unmarried mothers home - IrishCentral.com . There is 2 pages to this ..read page 2..

Why is there a problem with comparing the Catholic Church to the Nazis it was and is an abomination and so were the Nazi's it's just that the Catholic Church learnt to be covert enough to survive.

Child abuse and habitual rape are just just the tip of the iceberg really. I think people who prefer to think their relatives are happily living somewhere else just can't face the truth (I wouldn't be able to either). Priests Nuns and Children what a terrible tragic combination.

A guy I worked with was educated in Scotland by catholic nuns and to this day and he's 63 he says they were the most evil violent people he has ever encountered, systematically physically abusing 8 and 9 year old little children till their bodies bled, for no reason at all such things as lifting their eyes up not keeping them cast down. Starving them of food for minor transgressions. Horrendous stuff.

Who really needs an enquiry to know the Catholic Church is inherently evil, nobody in their right mind.

There are too many people still currently around who suffered at the hands of these 'Godly' people for it ever to be in question.

You have completely missed the point. There is no problem with anyone comparing anything to anything.

Just don't expect whatever it is to go unchallenged.

The Catholic Church's approach to the many crimes it has committed is difficult to understand until you realise that it's view is tainted, not distorted, by the inability to distinguish a crime from a sin. One of the main pillars of the Catechism is that forgiveness is possible by contrition, confession and penance. Those who sin and commit a state crime may be forgiven by God through this process and therefore, conveniently, absolve the Church of it's moral dilemma.
Like others have stated, I found nuns to be the most evil and unfeeling bastards I have ever encountered, especially where children are concerned and wonder if their de sensitised upbringing and life made them immune to the suffering they inflicted, not in the name of God's greater plan but in the minds of their victims. Did they even feel a need to confess what they had done?

It is no small irony that the one section of mankind that Jesus had no time for were those who led children into sin and this from a man who forgave those who nailed him to a crucifix. Yet the darkest and most evil chapter in a long history of blood and infamy has to be the treatment of children, the abuse, the rape, the experimentation and wanton abandonment of human decency to innocent young lives.

It almost makes me wish for an after life to see them suffer in the fires of hell they said awaited me for having 'impure' thoughts about a girl back home.