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Re: Hola!
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Unfortunately there are still a lot of Brits on this and other forums who have not fully digested the consequences of Brexit .To do anything other than visit an EU country as a tourist for 90 in 180 days you need a Visa .That is the reality of the situation now Remember that a friend will tell you what you NEED to hear not what you WANT to hear |
Re: Hola!
Originally Posted by dave7777
(Post 13268069)
Or perhaps the vast majority who voted leave didnt and dont care about living/working in the EU, apart from second home owners etc.
They can still holiday in the EU for their 2 weeks in the sun. It means very little in reality to most UK citizens. How many took up that option while the UK was in the EU? Not that many. The OP was asking for advice, not a lecture. |
Re: Hola!
Originally Posted by dave7777
(Post 13269656)
"The NIE is a personal, unique and exclusive number that is assigned to foreigners who, for economic, professional, or social reasons, are engaged in activities related to Spain and require identification in this country." We applied for ours before we purchased our house here in Spain. You need it before you do anything financial here, You can apply for these at the embassy in the UK too I think, and also here in Spain, but appointment's are ridiculously hard to get, without using a company to get one for you, but it is possible,. I think they will ask you why you need it, if you arent buying property etc here.
I wish you good luck, despite the silly comments on here, |
Re: Hola!
Originally Posted by 1sexsmith
(Post 13269660)
As said above the NIE is an identification number normally given in order to to track and identify financial transactions. It is also used for many daily activities such as phone contracts, appointments etc. It confers no rights. It does not confer residency nor healthcare. Getting one is not hard but normally is attached to specific reason. As a UK national you can not work in Spain unless you are sponsored with a work visa by an employer. Turning up in Spain and looking for work is not possible since Brexit and employers for jobs, even casual, will indicate that work papers are required.You mention Torrevieja area- which is where many Brits live- bar work exists in these places but all the adverts say you need permission to work - employers risk fines now. Basically you can come for 90 days as a tourist and that's it .You won't be able to get an NIE because you want to work as that is illegal
. Also be aware that if you do come, Torrevieja council are cracking down on people living in Campervans on non campesite areas. Recent years has seen a proliferation or people parking their vans on the coastal paths to Punta Prima and La Mata. |
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Unless it is on the approved list where they cannot find Spaniards available to do the job you will not get a work visa. Incidentally 95% of those jobs are on the maritime industry.
Frankly, I think you are wasting your time attempting to get a legal job in Spain. |
Re: Hola!
Originally Posted by PTG1972
(Post 13269640)
Wow! What a lot to unpack. Everything from Brexit and Bullfights to Passports and (my favourite), pipedreams. My most sincere apologies to those who were exasperated by my ignorance, I mistook this for a friendly forum where experience and knowledge may be passed around rather than being scoffed at. I merely wish to research the topic amongst people who've actually done it, to see if it might be possible for me to do it too. Since somebody asked me to update- I shall. I'm now looking to see if it is possible to stay and work in Spain for Jan, Feb & March then go back to the UK. If somebody would be good enough and not too condescending to explain to me what an NIE number is and how a UK citizen acquires one ahead of going to Spain, I'd be very grateful.
But working while visiting for 90 days as a tourist is no longer an option. Perhaps another option would be applying for a digital nomad visa but then unless you were able to choose when you work and still reach the lower income limit on the visa, you'd be working 9-5 and not seeing the country in the camper van.
Originally Posted by dave7777
(Post 13268307)
I've read that about 10 times, and I still have no idea what you are trying to say, Why does FOM matter to someone who only wants to spend their summer holidays in Spain, Greece, France etc? Perhaps you are saying that these ppl are stupid? Or just democracy is stupid when the given result is the "wrong one" for you?
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This is the procedure you must follow to be able to work in Spain.
https://www.exteriores.gob.es/Consul...nta-ajena.aspx |
Re: Hola!
Originally Posted by DLC
(Post 13269844)
To be able to work you need a working visa, to get one of those you need a job offer, which you could get when visiting as a tourist for up to 90 days and attending job interviews.
If you give people a vote on something which impacts trade, logistics, employment, cross-border working, research and development, etc... to a population whose main experience with the EU is two weeks holiday a year, the result will not be in the country's best interests. Firstly all jobs are advertised with the condition that you are able to work in the country (exactly the same thing as in the Uk and everywhere else) Most application forms have a box for you to indicate that you can. So dont tick the box and your application goes in the bin, do tick the box and you have committed minor employment fraud and will be told to leave as soon as you try to explain.... Ive been sort of looking to go back to work and the legality of being able to be employed is the FIRST thing I have been asked, each and every time... The OP doesn't sound like they are a brain surgeon, rocket scientist etc so its almost impossible for them to be given hope that an employer MIGHT pay for the visa application (apologies to the OP if they are in fact a rocket scientist et al) Secondly, if the majority of a population decides to vote for something and its enacted, then that is what was best for the country. Its called democracy. Unlike Ireland and other countries who just kept having referendum after referendum until the ruling classes got what they wanted in the first place. Oh and I never voted leave even though I dont like what the EU stands for. I campaigned whole heartedly for the third option which would have saved all the bother, but none of the over 100 MP's I wrote to even knew of what I was speaking. I an uneducated London lout had to explain the terms of the freedom of movement act and what each nation could do to apply the act to those who bothered to write back to me. And they still did nothing... Anyway...none of this helps the OP. So, options, spend 90/180 travelling around but not working and spend the other 180 working in the uk. Try for the DNV but you already need to be working remotely for this to happen. Try for the NLV but you need a reasonable level of income and cannot work. After the year is up it is possible to change it to a work visa but again you need a job offer. Move to Ireland and stay there for however long it takes to get a plastic Irish passport and then BINGO freedom of movement restored. Or, if you are a rocket scientist etc start contacting companies to see if they will pay for the employment visa. Oh or marry a Spanish citizen and bob (or Paco) will be your uncle.... |
Re: Hola!
Originally Posted by Barriej
(Post 13269859)
Firstly all jobs are advertised with the condition that you are able to work in the country (exactly the same thing as in the Uk and everywhere else) Most application forms have a box for you to indicate that you can. So dont tick the box and your application goes in the bin, do tick the box and you have committed minor employment fraud and will be told to leave as soon as you try to explain.... Ive been sort of looking to go back to work and the legality of being able to be employed is the FIRST thing I have been asked, each and every time... The OP doesn't sound like they are a brain surgeon, rocket scientist etc so its almost impossible for them to be given hope that an employer MIGHT pay for the visa application (apologies to the OP if they are in fact a rocket scientist et al)
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Please stop taking this thread off topic. Brexit occurred, rehashing it at every opportunity is not helpful to posters who ask questions about the here and now. Rosemary. |
Re: Hola!
All I would say is that the reality is that the OP cannot do what he would like to do precisely because of Brexit - no other reason.Many of us all over the EU have been able to "live the dream" and many probably did exactly what the OP wants to do due to the UK being a member of the EU so Brexit is the cause of the OPs problem
And I do not think that working for friends/family is going to get the OP a work visa. |
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Re: Hola!
Originally Posted by Listen Very Carefully
(Post 13269959)
All I would say is that the reality is that the OP cannot do what he would like to do precisely because of Brexit - no other reason.Many of us all over the EU have been able to "live the dream" and many probably did exactly what the OP wants to do due to the UK being a member of the EU so Brexit is the cause of the OPs problem
And I do not think that working for friends/family is going to get the OP a work visa. It seems that nobody can advise the OP how to proceed with her plans because they are just not possible in the post Brexit world. That is why UK nationals should have been properly informed and told exactly what losing FoM would really mean. Sending out a daft leaflet telling people FoM would end in the event of a Leave vote was not enough, it needed to be spelt out in intricate detail. The best advice so far is get an Irish passport. |
Re: Hola!
Originally Posted by PTG1972
(Post 13269824)
Thank you, this is exactly the sort of constructive advice, teamed with local knowledge I was looking for. I have an offer of work with friends & family. So, to be legal, they would need to administrate the visa and I apply for the NIE ahead of buying flights? Re: the Campervan, I will not be bringing it in the first instance- I am aware they've caused some angst in the Punta Prima/ Los Balcones/ La Zenia areas and are now very much frowned upon!
If you want to come to Spain for 90 days and during that time helped out friends in an informal way and was paid a small amount of cash it is unlikely anything would happen. However if your friends had a bar or business and you worked in a proper sense for them and someone reported this then they could face quite hefty fines and you could be barred from entering Spain etc. You don't need an NIE if you are only in Spain for 90 days and are not opening a bank account or buying a property. |
Re: Hola!
Originally Posted by DLC
(Post 13269844)
If you give people a vote on something which impacts trade, logistics, employment, cross-border working, research and development, etc... to a population whose main experience with the EU is two weeks holiday a year, the result will not be in the country's best interests.
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