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rspltd Aug 6th 2024 7:53 pm

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I always have a wry smile when posts such as this appear. Don’t misunderstand me, the responses are often very helpful. And go some way to filling in the gaps. However, to my mind, they always start at the wrong place. The first question should be why the poster wants to live and or work in Spain , in particular, or the EU in general. Have they any knowledge of the country or it’s it based on hearsay or holidays? Do they a particular skill that they could exercise or that couldn’t be replicated by a Spanish person? Do that have a working knowledge of the language. Are they aware of the bureaucracy? Do they realise how variable the weather is? How would they obtain income to live? Could they cope with a country that has cultures which could be quite alien to the, the summer holidays in August, the bullfighting ( where it still exists) the endless fiestas/ holiday dates, the spar city of social care. Lot’s of questions, the responses to which would probably remove the need to go into such details as visas, lengths of time etc.

Eric S Aug 6th 2024 9:32 pm

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If you have a job where you can work remotely, you may be able to use the digital nomad visa. I'm not sure of all the requirements. More info here: https://www.exteriores.gob.es/Consul...omad-Visa.aspx

Good luck.
- Eric S.

Fredbargate Aug 6th 2024 9:43 pm

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Originally Posted by DLC (Post 13268079)
90 days in Gibraltar or Andorra is also a possibility.

You cannot stay in a campervan in Gibraltar.

EU.flag Aug 6th 2024 9:45 pm

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Very good post above from rspltd.
Every month we get one of these pipe dream post, usually from people who never lived (anywhere) abroad before.

Listen Very Carefully Aug 6th 2024 10:35 pm

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UK people can have all the right motivations to move to an EU country but they count for absolutely nothing if they cannot get a Visa so having esoteric conversations is just wasting time frankly

DLC Aug 6th 2024 11:41 pm

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 13268172)
You cannot stay in a campervan in Gibraltar.

But you could stay in hotel/aparthotel/B&B/etc... and park the camper van right?

But waiting 90 days in Gibraltar or Andorra is probably not what they had in mind.

growinspain Aug 7th 2024 12:23 am

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Originally Posted by DLC (Post 13268212)
But you could stay in hotel/aparthotel/B&B/etc... and park the camper van right?

But waiting 90 days in Gibraltar or Andorra is probably not what they had in mind.

Andorra is nice in the fall and spring. Lots of hiking, lakes, rivers but in the winter forget it and maybe the summers also - hot in a van...

tebo53 Aug 7th 2024 2:56 am

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It might be nice if the OP PGT1972 came back to give us an update on his thoughts. It might save the rest of us some typing time!

Steve

Rosemary Aug 7th 2024 3:24 am

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Originally Posted by tebo53 (Post 13268292)
It might be nice if the OP PGT1972 came back to give us an update on his thoughts. It might save the rest of us some typing time!

Steve

Patience. it has only been just over 24 hours since the OP posted and they are probably working.

Rosemary

dave7777 Aug 7th 2024 3:44 am

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Originally Posted by DLC (Post 13268078)
Well many the trappings of a modern-day western democracy mean very little to someone who's only interested in their two weeks holiday. Meaning the whole referendum exercise was an extremely stupid idea in the first place.

I've read that about 10 times, and I still have no idea what you are trying to say, Why does FOM matter to someone who only wants to spend their summer holidays in Spain, Greece, France etc? Perhaps you are saying that these ppl are stupid? Or just democracy is stupid when the given result is the "wrong one" for you?

PTG1972 Aug 13th 2024 11:49 am

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Wow! What a lot to unpack. Everything from Brexit and Bullfights to Passports and (my favourite), pipedreams. My most sincere apologies to those who were exasperated by my ignorance, I mistook this for a friendly forum where experience and knowledge may be passed around rather than being scoffed at. I merely wish to research the topic amongst people who've actually done it, to see if it might be possible for me to do it too. Since somebody asked me to update- I shall. I'm now looking to see if it is possible to stay and work in Spain for Jan, Feb & March then go back to the UK. If somebody would be good enough and not too condescending to explain to me what an NIE number is and how a UK citizen acquires one ahead of going to Spain, I'd be very grateful.

dave7777 Aug 13th 2024 4:36 pm

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Originally Posted by PTG1972 (Post 13269640)
Wow! What a lot to unpack. Everything from Brexit and Bullfights to Passports and (my favourite), pipedreams. My most sincere apologies to those who were exasperated by my ignorance, I mistook this for a friendly forum where experience and knowledge may be passed around rather than being scoffed at. I merely wish to research the topic amongst people who've actually done it, to see if it might be possible for me to do it too. Since somebody asked me to update- I shall. I'm now looking to see if it is possible to stay and work in Spain for Jan, Feb & March then go back to the UK. If somebody would be good enough and not too condescending to explain to me what an NIE number is and how a UK citizen acquires one ahead of going to Spain, I'd be very grateful.

"The NIE is a personal, unique and exclusive number that is assigned to foreigners who, for economic, professional, or social reasons, are engaged in activities related to Spain and require identification in this country." We applied for ours before we purchased our house here in Spain. You need it before you do anything financial here, You can apply for these at the embassy in the UK too I think, and also here in Spain, but appointment's are ridiculously hard to get, without using a company to get one for you, but it is possible,. I think they will ask you why you need it, if you arent buying property etc here.
I wish you good luck, despite the silly comments on here,


1sexsmith Aug 13th 2024 5:45 pm

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Originally Posted by PTG1972 (Post 13269640)
Wow! What a lot to unpack. Everything from Brexit and Bullfights to Passports and (my favourite), pipedreams. My most sincere apologies to those who were exasperated by my ignorance, I mistook this for a friendly forum where experience and knowledge may be passed around rather than being scoffed at. I merely wish to research the topic amongst people who've actually done it, to see if it might be possible for me to do it too. Since somebody asked me to update- I shall. I'm now looking to see if it is possible to stay and work in Spain for Jan, Feb & March then go back to the UK. If somebody would be good enough and not too condescending to explain to me what an NIE number is and how a UK citizen acquires one ahead of going to Spain, I'd be very grateful.

As said above the NIE is an identification number normally given in order to to track and identify financial transactions. It is also used for many daily activities such as phone contracts, appointments etc. It confers no rights. It does not confer residency nor healthcare. Getting one is not hard but normally is attached to specific reason. As a UK national you can not work in Spain unless you are sponsored with a work visa by an employer. Turning up in Spain and looking for work is not possible since Brexit and employers for jobs, even casual, will indicate that work papers are required.You mention Torrevieja area- which is where many Brits live- bar work exists in these places but all the adverts say you need permission to work - employers risk fines now. Basically you can come for 90 days as a tourist and that's it .You won't be able to get an NIE because you want to work as that is illegal

. Also be aware that if you do come, Torrevieja council are cracking down on people living in Campervans on non campesite areas. Recent years has seen a proliferation or people parking their vans on the coastal paths to Punta Prima and La Mata.

Rosemary Aug 13th 2024 10:09 pm

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Originally Posted by PTG1972 (Post 13269640)
Wow! What a lot to unpack. Everything from Brexit and Bullfights to Passports and (my favourite), pipedreams. My most sincere apologies to those who were exasperated by my ignorance, I mistook this for a friendly forum where experience and knowledge may be passed around rather than being scoffed at. I merely wish to research the topic amongst people who've actually done it, to see if it might be possible for me to do it too. Since somebody asked me to update- I shall. I'm now looking to see if it is possible to stay and work in Spain for Jan, Feb & March then go back to the UK. If somebody would be good enough and not too condescending to explain to me what an NIE number is and how a UK citizen acquires one ahead of going to Spain, I'd be very grateful.

The vast majority of our members are very friendly, helpful and informative, however as in all walks of life there are some who post less agreeable comments instead of keeping these thoughts to themselves.

I see that you have been provided with clear info on the NIE.

Please do not allow the odd negative comments to stop you asking for more help. The only stupid question is the one that is not asked.

Rosemary

Lou71 Aug 13th 2024 11:33 pm

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Originally Posted by PTG1972 (Post 13269640)
Wow! What a lot to unpack. Everything from Brexit and Bullfights to Passports and (my favourite), pipedreams. My most sincere apologies to those who were exasperated by my ignorance, I mistook this for a friendly forum where experience and knowledge may be passed around rather than being scoffed at. I merely wish to research the topic amongst people who've actually done it, to see if it might be possible for me to do it too. Since somebody asked me to update- I shall. I'm now looking to see if it is possible to stay and work in Spain for Jan, Feb & March then go back to the UK. If somebody would be good enough and not too condescending to explain to me what an NIE number is and how a UK citizen acquires one ahead of going to Spain, I'd be very grateful.

Believe me, I wish things were very different and you still had EU freedom of movement but without it, your proposed plans are virtually impossible. I'm not being negative, I'm being realistic and straight with you.

I'm afraid an NIE number will not help your employment prospects.


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