High Electric Bill
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With all those windmills, using free energy, how can Spain have the most expensive electricity bills in the world?!
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Lo han conseguido! La electricidad española es la más cara del mundo
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Because Endesa is about the most powerful company in Spain, with their hands in the pockets of most politicians.
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With all those windmills, using free energy, how can Spain have the most expensive electricity bills in the world?!
Lo han conseguido! La electricidad española es la más cara del mundo
Lo han conseguido! La electricidad española es la más cara del mundo
Un dato sin confirmar, un ciudadano londinense paga un tercio de lo que paga un español por el recibo de la luz a pesar de las diferencias salariales.
Got to be a mistake.
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Best get used to it, I believe there's more rises to come, waters tripled in price rates have also tripled in price, Electric still has a little way to go
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With all those windmills, using free energy, how can Spain have the most expensive electricity bills in the world?!
Lo han conseguido! La electricidad española es la más cara del mundo
Lo han conseguido! La electricidad española es la más cara del mundo
Green energy is actually twice as expensive as fossil fuels
And of course, Spain has almost no fossil fuels, just a bit of coal and natural gas, has to import the rest, expensive!
Nothing to do with monopolies, the energy companies have been making a huge loss for years
Whoever wrote that electricity should be more expensive in London because they earn more is an idiot, we're not talking about the price of a cup of coffee
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They are now having to reduce this to some extent and bills are increasing accordingly.
If you are not on the government controlled TUR tariff the rates have gone up by far more.
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Reading the original Spanish note again, I see it's dated March 2012. There's been a 7% additional increase in electricity rates since then and another one now in July.
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Type Sociedad Anónima
Traded as BMAD: ELE
Industry Public utility
Founded 1944
Headquarters Madrid, Spain
Key people Andrea Brentan (CEO), Borja Prado Eulate (Chairman)
Services Electricity generation and distribution
Revenue €31.18 billion (2010)
Operating income €5.031 billion (2010)
Profit €4.129 billion (2010)
Total assets €62.59 billion (end 2010)
Total equity €23.16 billion (end 2010)
Employees 25,580 (average, 2010)
Parent Enel
Website endesa.com
I recently read their profits dipped below 4 Billion last year, and this signalled shareholders to demand significant restructuring. The restructuring included lobbying the government for rate hikes or face a 20% reduction of staff (which would be political suicide).
By the way, since Endesa employs over 25000 people it's really more of a subsidy, not a "tariff control". You and I pay for for the "artificially low rates".
apparently the new rate hikes solved the problem of not enough profit... for this quarter, anyway...
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The government have been phasing their subsidies out. I think by next year there wont be any
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Must be a mistake, I've always been told on here that everything is as cheap as chips in Spain, far cheaper than UK.
Un dato sin confirmar, un ciudadano londinense paga un tercio de lo que paga un español por el recibo de la luz a pesar de las diferencias salariales.
Got to be a mistake.
Un dato sin confirmar, un ciudadano londinense paga un tercio de lo que paga un español por el recibo de la luz a pesar de las diferencias salariales.
Got to be a mistake.
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Yeah but sitting indoors with coats on in winter aint every bodies cuppa T
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The main thing Iberdrola offers is a small discount on off-peak hours. Otherwise, pretty much the same as Endesa. Well, actually it is Endesa, billed by Iberdrola.
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Not true - look it up on Google!
It is a major Spanish energy producing company and has nothing to do with Endesa!
There are loads of Spanish energy companies in the free market who can supply electricity.
Yes, your particular units may come from one particular generating company who produce it but another company can bill it.
In certain parts of Spain one company produces it and in another part another company also does - they can also bill consumers in parts of the country that they do not produce. Iberdrola is based in the north of Spain, Endesa in the south.
We are in the south and are supplied by Endesa but billed by Iberdrola.
In Bilbao you would be supplied by Iberdrola and you could be billed by Endesa.
These companies are all producers but they are able to also bill consumers outside of their production area under the Mercado Libre rules.
It is a major Spanish energy producing company and has nothing to do with Endesa!
There are loads of Spanish energy companies in the free market who can supply electricity.
Yes, your particular units may come from one particular generating company who produce it but another company can bill it.
In certain parts of Spain one company produces it and in another part another company also does - they can also bill consumers in parts of the country that they do not produce. Iberdrola is based in the north of Spain, Endesa in the south.
We are in the south and are supplied by Endesa but billed by Iberdrola.
In Bilbao you would be supplied by Iberdrola and you could be billed by Endesa.
These companies are all producers but they are able to also bill consumers outside of their production area under the Mercado Libre rules.
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Not true - look it up on Google!
It is a major Spanish energy producing company and has nothing to do with Endesa!
There are loads of Spanish energy companies in the free market who can supply electricity.
Yes, your particular units may come from one particular generating company who produce it but another company can bill it.
It is a major Spanish energy producing company and has nothing to do with Endesa!
There are loads of Spanish energy companies in the free market who can supply electricity.
Yes, your particular units may come from one particular generating company who produce it but another company can bill it.
Surely not!



