Originally Posted by Jon-Bxl (Post 10525863)

Hi Mike

Bl***y-hell! Question answered

Watching TV is going to be very expensive when the satellites goes down, and I am pretty sure they will. There will be all sorts of ideas coming up for a replacement, but I can see no practical way that we can do that without an internet connection.

Rough calculation SD is better as you use less bits and say 600KB/s

To use 15GB that's about 67 hours TV a month a couple of hours a day. Err I think the back of the envelope was full! :)

Would also be 67 Euros/month. Just for TV. Add more for the normal internet usage. If you want more TV/internet I suppose one could get another dongle. Divide that by the time you are not there and you can see whether its better to go for an unlimited package. But that will be expensive. It bugs me to pay for unlimited usage monthly when I am not there. But this is no fault of TMN their package has always been the best for me that I've seen in Europe. I never envisioned watching TV on the internet when I bought the dongle a few years back :thumbdown:

This satellite change has really involved huge cost increases, for non-permanent residents that dont have unlimited down/upload :thumbdown:

I hope that TMN havent got or introduced the technology to actually do this. They (for example) reduced to 3 months the reload time, from 6, to keep old balances active. However it didnt zero for me previously when I came back later than that. So I will wait for the sats to drop off and test it in 'real life' and solve the problem if/when it arises.

What a drag!

BTW I went the slingbox route as opposed to remote desktop as it was far more elegant and the box is small and can be hidden away....

Thanks
Jon

Originally Posted by Jon-Bxl (Post 10525863)

Hi Mike

Bl***y-hell! Question answered

Watching TV is going to be very expensive when the satellites goes down, and I am pretty sure they will. There will be all sorts of ideas coming up for a replacement, but I can see no practical way that we can do that without an internet connection.

Rough calculation SD is better as you use less bits and say 600KB/s

To use 15GB that's about 67 hours TV a month a couple of hours a day. Err I think the back of the envelope was full! :)

Would also be 67 Euros/month. Just for TV. Add more for the normal internet usage. If you want more TV/internet I suppose one could get another dongle. Divide that by the time you are not there and you can see whether its better to go for an unlimited package. But that will be expensive. It bugs me to pay for unlimited usage monthly when I am not there. But this is no fault of TMN their package has always been the best for me that I've seen in Europe. I never envisioned watching TV on the internet when I bought the dongle a few years back :thumbdown:

This satellite change has really involved huge cost increases, for non-permanent residents that dont have unlimited down/upload :thumbdown:

I hope that TMN havent got or introduced the technology to actually do this. They (for example) reduced to 3 months the reload time, from 6, to keep old balances active. However it didnt zero for me previously when I came back later than that. So I will wait for the sats to drop off and test it in 'real life' and solve the problem if/when it arises.

What a drag!

BTW I went the slingbox route as opposed to remote desktop as it was far more elegant and the box is small and can be hidden away....

Thanks
Jon

Originally Posted by cleverdic (Post 10526766)

All very interesting. This is one of the options I am seriously considering when the satellite signal disappears later this year. However I would choose the sling box pro version since it has an integrated freeview tuner and so all I need is one box up and running in the UK connected to the aerial, broadband and the leccy.

The other attraction is if services like filmon or VPN style connect ions could be pulled at any time, I think sling box would continue without interference. Just my opinion.

Originally Posted by cleverdic (Post 10526766)

All very interesting. This is one of the options I am seriously considering when the satellite signal disappears later this year. However I would choose the sling box pro version since it has an integrated freeview tuner and so all I need is one box up and running in the UK connected to the aerial, broadband and the leccy.

The other attraction is if services like filmon or VPN style connect ions could be pulled at any time, I think sling box would continue without interference. Just my opinion.

Originally Posted by Jon-Bxl (Post 10530326)

Hi was thinking about this. With the pro-hd - you wouldnt need the other services you have it all in a clean + direct stream from home to abroad. I personally would not use the filmon or VPN etc once the box is in place. Less bouncing around of the data and also less corruption with heaven knows what e.g cookies, pop ups, viruses etc etc.....

Also as you can switch on and off the box remotely as well, this would be ideal.

I guess I could take my Humax box I bought last year, and wont be any use shortly in Spain (grrrrr!!).. then put up a sattelite dish here in Belgium. I am sure the FREESAT footprint would 'spill over' to Brussels (perhaps not the Freeview) and then have a dual system where I use either my UK box to watch or the Belgian box, or both ... each one on the couch 'potatoing' together!! :unsure:

But WHAT a drag and expense for me..... in my situation. For UK based Brits its easier, and if you don't have a home there, perhaps a friend would put a Humax box in his house for you tucked away somewhere for you to use.... or the proHD with its integrated Freeview if you haven't already got the Humax.

Again a HUGE drag! I think its too late for a massed expat petition campaign on the TV companies, as the millions have already been spent for the new satellites..... :thumbdown:

Jon

Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10530344)

its not the cost of the satellite its a) its location b) the transmitted footprint
the latter could probably be altered relatively easy and fractional cost especially as it could be a small tweak

the problem is the broadcasters are endeavouring to reduce the footprint to certain areas to ensure that they don't end up with the situation Sky had with a woman in London taking football for free from Greece.
The BBC have said quite emphatically they are only wishing to service their UK audience, although there will be some spillover into other countries.
To my mind a large amount of money being spent to bring satellite to a very small number of people that are already serviced by terrestial.
Sky is different as they have different packages for different countries/regions and their output is satellite driven, although it will prove interesting once Liberty Global acquisition of Virgin Media is completed.

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Originally Posted by MikeCol (Post 10530565)

How about this for an option, lets all sit outside during the warm Summer evenings and read a book, play cards or chat and in the Winter evenings have bowling comps etc with friends on your Wii or watch a DVD. You can keep up with the news on your PC and if you can't wean yourself off soaps use Filmon. Alternatively watch Spanish TV and learn the language. Regards Bryony

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 10531143)

Jon, I don't know what you are worrying about. Where you are going, Javea, there are no reception problems - in fact the situation has improved dramatically.

It's us people down in SW Spain that are going to have the problem.

Originally Posted by Jon-Bxl (Post 10531195)

Somewhere there is a miscommunication....