Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 10542676)

Many Sky pay channels will still be available to expats- like they have been for many years - as they will be on "european" beams that cover europe -as opposed to the UK beam that is harder to receive that will be carrying the main uk channels (BBC ITV C4 and fives). So there will be many "Sky" channels available, even if the "free to air" channels are not.

After all this satellite shuffle there will be 4 satellites, with about 10 beams, each beam having its own footprint and reception, and with each beam carrying a range of channels.
There are UK and Pan European beams, the latter being more "expat friendly" than the former - so not all signals / chanenls will be lost.

Sky will not offer BBC ITV C4s and Fives as part of their package - these broadcasters want to be free to air (BBC is by law / part of the license fee / trust rules) as it saves them from being encrpyted (saving money) and able to reach more people in the uk, good for advertisers.

If Sky were to offer a package, then
a) they would have to get all those chanensl to have "euoepan rights" for all their programming..whch like i said before the costs would probably outweight the benefits.
b) you would have to use a Sky box, or a box that is capable of reading the sky encryption. Currently "out of the box" humax boxes do not have this - as they are desgined for free to air / non encrypted channels.... perhaps some bright spark has been able to come up with some software, but I have not seen any....

Originally Posted by Sausages (Post 10555366)

This might be a daft question but is this satellite problem peculiar just to the Ayamonte area or is it all Spain? I'm hoping to move to a house in another part of Spain and it already has a dish so are we saying that dish will be useless? Don't think it's 2m wide...

Originally Posted by BILL AND CLAIRE (Post 10555403)

:rofl::D:rofl::D:rofl::D:amen: SAUSAGES THIS IS A dAFT QUESTION

Originally Posted by BILL AND CLAIRE (Post 10555403)

:rofl::D:rofl::D:rofl::D:amen: SAUSAGES THIS IS A dAFT QUESTION

Originally Posted by Sausages (Post 10555475)

Why is it daft? And why are you shouting at me? :unsure:

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 10555440)

Why? It seems a perfectly reasonable question.

Reception in SW Spain will be seriously affected with these changes but conversely reception on parts of the east coast will improve noticeably.

Originally Posted by Sausages (Post 10555475)

Why is it daft? And why are you shouting at me? :unsure:

Originally Posted by BILL AND CLAIRE (Post 10556034)

Cant fight till after a big breakfast..Later:frown:

Originally Posted by Sausages (Post 10555366)

This might be a daft question but is this satellite problem peculiar just to the Ayamonte area or is it all Spain? I'm hoping to move to a house in another part of Spain and it already has a dish so are we saying that dish will be useless? Don't think it's 2m wide...

Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 10556094)

The change in satellites will affect everywhere - although in the UK it will be unnoticable.
Reception elsewhere in Europe will be different...we have already seen that areas in France and Germany where 80cm dish was fine before, and not it is not getting channels that are on the new satellite.

YEs in some areas the reception off channels has improved after they have moved to the first of three new satellites. On the east coast (Costa Blanca / Valencia), channels that were not available 24/7 even on a 2.4m dish can now be received on 1m dish - looks like a "hotspot" for this satellite.. BUt then, somewhat paradoxically, in the Catalunia / Barcelona area, an 80cmdish is no longer good for this new satellite and a 1.8m dish is required - its like this area is a "blackspot" fore the uk beam of this new satellite.

IN CDS and Portugal, channels that could be received on 1.25m dishes (like Channel Five 4HD) now need a much larger dish to receivce them.

Although there is no saying what reception will be like for satellite number two (Astra 2E), scheduled for launch mid 2013. It is possible that reception of satellite 2E is different to the first new satellites, 2F. Until it has been launched, tested, positioned, and channels are being transmitted, no-one will know what its reception wil be like or what sized dish you will be needing. Anyone who says anything different is speculating.

Originally Posted by John & Kath (Post 10556144)

How big will we need any indications yet? Last map I saw showed that in Faro a 2.4m dish would not pull in channels 4HD & 5's?

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 10556301)

Here we have received the full SKY setup since we have been here. Many years ago it used to go off on certain channels at certain times of the day. Now, we lose no channels at any time of the day plus we have HD. Its just like UK reception. I have a 1.8 m dish

Originally Posted by John & Kath (Post 10556144)

How big will we need any indications yet? Last map I saw showed that in Faro a 2.4m dish would not pull in channels 4HD & 5's?

Originally Posted by Loco (Post 10557450)

See http://www.satellite-calculations.co..._footprint.jpg

2E will have much the same footprint.


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Loco

Originally Posted by Loco (Post 10557450)

See http://www.satellite-calculations.co..._footprint.jpg

2E will have much the same footprint.


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Loco