Goodbye Sky TV
Mar 9th 2013 | 11:25 pm
#241
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Re: Goodbye Sky TV
It is streaming content without permission.
That's a BIG difference.
And although the main case is about a webbased streaming service (TVC) , it is unclear if that actually covers IPTV providers, which is not exactly webbased.
And it does not affected VPN / proxies - as they are not webstreaming services, simply IP address services.
Last edited by The Guy; Mar 9th 2013 at 11:31 pm.
Mar 10th 2013 | 12:01 am
#242
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Re: Goodbye Sky TV - Slingbox update
Well if I knew that then I would be winning the lottery each week.
Channels you can and will receive depend on:
your location, your dish size, and which satellite and beams the broadcasters put their channels on.
For example, for all I know, you may lose Discovery, but keep Discovery+1, you may lose Sky Sports 1, but keep Sky Sports 1HD..
Until it happens, no-one will know for sure....
However, expect the main BBC ITV C4 and Fives (which are all free and nothing to do with the Sky or need a subscription for) will be on the UK beams of the new satellites, and may mean either an upgrade to a larger dish, or a MUCH larger dish, or loss of the channels altogether via satellite in a location unless you have a very silly sized dish...
The hundreds of Sky Pay channels are spread over various beams over the various satellites. Generally most of these are expected to be on the "European beams" of the satellite, so reception should be unaffected and as it is today. But also, some Sky pay channels may move to the UK beam and reception will be similar to BBC etc. (like before where some Sky Sports and Nick and Disney channels were on the UK beam).
On the other hand, some Sky channels reception will (and has) improved with recent satellite shuffle. Some channels which were unavailable 24/7 even on 2,.4m dishes in some areas, especially the "north beam" channels, like Sky Sports News, are now available 24/7 even on an 80cm dish.
Other free channels - like True Movies and CBS are not on Astra satellites at all, but on another satellite - eutelsat28a - and are expected to remain on that satellite so not expecting any changes.
Channels you can and will receive depend on:
your location, your dish size, and which satellite and beams the broadcasters put their channels on.
For example, for all I know, you may lose Discovery, but keep Discovery+1, you may lose Sky Sports 1, but keep Sky Sports 1HD..
Until it happens, no-one will know for sure....
However, expect the main BBC ITV C4 and Fives (which are all free and nothing to do with the Sky or need a subscription for) will be on the UK beams of the new satellites, and may mean either an upgrade to a larger dish, or a MUCH larger dish, or loss of the channels altogether via satellite in a location unless you have a very silly sized dish...
The hundreds of Sky Pay channels are spread over various beams over the various satellites. Generally most of these are expected to be on the "European beams" of the satellite, so reception should be unaffected and as it is today. But also, some Sky pay channels may move to the UK beam and reception will be similar to BBC etc. (like before where some Sky Sports and Nick and Disney channels were on the UK beam).
On the other hand, some Sky channels reception will (and has) improved with recent satellite shuffle. Some channels which were unavailable 24/7 even on 2,.4m dishes in some areas, especially the "north beam" channels, like Sky Sports News, are now available 24/7 even on an 80cm dish.
Other free channels - like True Movies and CBS are not on Astra satellites at all, but on another satellite - eutelsat28a - and are expected to remain on that satellite so not expecting any changes.
At 64 quid a month I may be cancelling.
Mar 10th 2013 | 12:46 am
#243
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Mar 10th 2013 | 9:31 am
#245
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Re: Goodbye Sky TV - Slingbox update
The UK broadcasters are under NO obligation to serve Gibralter.
They only have obligations to serve the UK and ROI - not an "overseas territory" like Gib.
So it makes no difference to the broadcasters if the signal reaches Gib or not, they have no obligation to make those signals available to Gib.
Just like Spain, Gib gets UK TV from the satellite by any available "signal overspill".
They only have obligations to serve the UK and ROI - not an "overseas territory" like Gib.
So it makes no difference to the broadcasters if the signal reaches Gib or not, they have no obligation to make those signals available to Gib.
Just like Spain, Gib gets UK TV from the satellite by any available "signal overspill".
Mar 10th 2013 | 9:27 pm
#246
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From: Ontinyent - Valencia region (campo)
Re: Goodbye Sky TV - Slingbox update
The UK broadcasters are under NO obligation to serve Gibralter.
They only have obligations to serve the UK and ROI - not an "overseas territory" like Gib.
So it makes no difference to the broadcasters if the signal reaches Gib or not, they have no obligation to make those signals available to Gib.
Just like Spain, Gib gets UK TV from the satellite by any available "signal overspill".
They only have obligations to serve the UK and ROI - not an "overseas territory" like Gib.
So it makes no difference to the broadcasters if the signal reaches Gib or not, they have no obligation to make those signals available to Gib.
Just like Spain, Gib gets UK TV from the satellite by any available "signal overspill".
Mar 10th 2013 | 11:21 pm
#247
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Re: Goodbye Sky TV
Why the ROI and not just N Ireland ?
Mar 11th 2013 | 12:01 am
#248
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Re: Goodbye Sky TV
I think the obligation is to NI but it would be almost impossible to restrict the signal to just NI however the SKY package available in RoI is different to that in UK and features all the "home" Irish channels and not BBC, ITV, Ch4 and Ch5.
Mar 11th 2013 | 12:04 am
#249
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Re: Goodbye Sky TV - Slingbox update
The UK broadcasters are under NO obligation to serve Gibralter.
They only have obligations to serve the UK and ROI - not an "overseas territory" like Gib.
So it makes no difference to the broadcasters if the signal reaches Gib or not, they have no obligation to make those signals available to Gib.
Just like Spain, Gib gets UK TV from the satellite by any available "signal overspill".
They only have obligations to serve the UK and ROI - not an "overseas territory" like Gib.
So it makes no difference to the broadcasters if the signal reaches Gib or not, they have no obligation to make those signals available to Gib.
Just like Spain, Gib gets UK TV from the satellite by any available "signal overspill".
Mar 11th 2013 | 1:53 am
#250
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From: In the middle of 10million Olive Trees
Re: Goodbye Sky TV - Slingbox update
Gib has many things it needs satellites for other than Corrie and Eastenders,
the style of the LNB can be a giveaway but not always.
if one of those babies should get loose in a wind (like we are experiencing at the moment) then it will give new meaning to frisbies
Mar 11th 2013 | 2:24 am
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Mar 11th 2013 | 4:06 am
#252
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Re: Goodbye Sky TV - Slingbox update
Was being a tad general.
I think BBC ITV C4 and Fives are UK and NI.
Sky is UK and ROI - and has different programme variations for ROI Sky channels...in case ROI TV channels have the rights to them.
The SES Uplink centre - just one or two big dishes....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=P9_HYkchtI4
I think BBC ITV C4 and Fives are UK and NI.
Sky is UK and ROI - and has different programme variations for ROI Sky channels...in case ROI TV channels have the rights to them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=P9_HYkchtI4
Last edited by The Guy; Mar 11th 2013 at 4:08 am.
Mar 11th 2013 | 4:29 am
#253
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Re: Goodbye Sky TV
Thanks I thought that would be the case re ROI
Mar 18th 2013 | 6:53 am
#254
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Re: Goodbye Sky TV
Mar 18th 2013 | 11:16 am
#255
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Re: Goodbye Sky TV
It is not "a ban live IPTV straeming over the internet".
It is streaming content without permission.
That's a BIG difference.
And although the main case is about a webbased streaming service (TVC) , it is unclear if that actually covers IPTV providers, which is not exactly webbased.
And it does not affected VPN / proxies - as they are not webstreaming services, simply IP address services.
It is streaming content without permission.
That's a BIG difference.
And although the main case is about a webbased streaming service (TVC) , it is unclear if that actually covers IPTV providers, which is not exactly webbased.
And it does not affected VPN / proxies - as they are not webstreaming services, simply IP address services.
