I agree entirely - it isn't simple science it is extremely complex. The theory behind the warming effect of increasing CO2 in the atmosphere though is very simple. It is also a fact that the vast majority of scientists agree. But some people still insist in muddying the waters by throwing in stupid conspiracy theory nonsense and others have quite obviously no idea whatever about the science but bang on like they do. I give up. At least we all seem to agree that even if it is happening we don't give a toss.

Just as a little footnote, this was today's high temperature where I live in Cadiz 17° Global warming, my arse

Leaving your arse out of it, if I may for the moment, do you have a vague appreciation of the notion that weather and climate are quite different concepts?

I usually explain it to 10 year olds with something along the lines of "Climate is the clothes you have in your wardrobe, weather is what you put on today".

They seem to get it straight away, but I suppose it's way over your head.

I've already given up. This is the level of discourse on this forum. Pathetic nonsense and idiocy - not a clue about anything.

Could I just mention Karakorum, been in the papers for about seven days now and has got a lot of scientists in a real tizzie!!!!

Jim

Oops - in the cold light of day I've realised you were probably joking - sorry!

The majority of glaciers are shrinking - some in a local area are growing.

Remember that it is thought that the UK could experience Alaskan conditions if climate change is a real phenomenon.

There is no doubt that global average temperatures are rising - as jojo says we are coming out of an ice age - the only question is whether or not man made CO2 is an aggravating factor.

Reading this forum is sometimes like watching Neanderthal man running in fear as the moon goes down over the horizon.

But why is it there has to be a scientific explanation which has massive financial consequences for the world....And why is it the advantageous financial consequences are divided between the political ruling elite and their sycophantic conglomerate cronies, whilst the rest of the globe inhabiting plebes have to foot the bill???
I am not a global conspiracy fantasist! ........Ahem!!!

If it were true and not just a convenient money making theory, cos thats all it is, a theory generated by a predictive computer model, then there would be no argument, no discussion. There are many eminent scientists who find the whole thing silly - why would they and who are we to argue either way??? We just have to go with what we're told and make our own minds up.

Jo xx

Exactly! Having a degree in chemistry/science etc does not qualify you as a GW expert

What about the not inconsiderable photographic evidence that glaciers and such like are melting at a much faster rate than ever before? How about the various data sites that show that climate change is happening as we speak? How about the pollution issues that plague not only the third world where regulations are less stringent but also the damage being done long term to the rest of the world?

Climate change deniers always quote the money making side of taxes and some bullshit about times in our history when the climate did change swiftly but they never accept that even at those strange times when the earths climate did change suddenly it was always a dramatic pollution event that caused it, generally volcanos. In 50 years time when all you lot are rotting in the ground we will all laugh at you and your ignorance.... well I wont. I'll never make old bones!

and I won't be around to tell those theorists that they were wrong about global warming...neither will they to take the flack. They can say anything with their daft mock ups.

You'd need show us the photographic evidence from the last global warming eras to prove that lol!!!

Jo xxx

Justify that bit if you can (based on previous form I'm not holding my breath...)

Also THE VAST MAJORITY of scientists are in agreement about it - the MINORITY are not. Why do you choose to go with the minority?