People come on you have to look at it from EMR's pov.
In his mind he is saying to himself "The fact is I have an opinion ,so my opinion must be a fact!"
That's how he can add 2 plus 2 and get a banana.

La Linea marks 145th anniversary with call for good relations

La Linea’s deputy mayor, Helenio Lucas Fernández, called for close cooperation with Gibraltar and the Campo de Gibraltar during a speech this week to mark the 145th anniversary of the city’s founding.

Sr Lucas, a councillor with the fledgling La Linea 100x100 party, said La Linea should not be seen as “a bargaining chip” that Spanish foreign policy could use “at our expense”.

“If they don’t provide the means, if they don’t open the doors, if they continue to deny us a symbiosis, a relationship of mutual assistance and backing with our neighbours…then they will again make matters difficult for us and we will have no option but to switch from a friendly smile to the teeth of a doberman,” he said during an address at a special council meeting.

“To expect us not to have good relations with our surroundings in general, and with those on the other side of the border in particular, is to deny our history, our origins.”

Gibraltar Chronicle - The Independent Daily First Published 1801

Still do not get it do you,
Something only becomes a fact when it has happened. or is happening.
Until then it is a guess, an opinion an estimate etc etc but not a fact.
There is only one fact that contradicts this.
If you survive birth then at some point in the future you will die.

Not sure their is room in this ongoing row for a new by.

?Is it possible CallMeDave uses three initials on European forums?
Outlook same
Inability to use facts
I'm CMD so it must be right
It's only a question?

So how come that doesn't apply on your planet ?

Did you like your banana?

Government Faces Calls To Increase Gibraltar Naval Assets

Government Faces Calls To Increase Gibraltar Naval Assets | Forces TV

A former First Sea Lord said the Royal Navy needs “larger vessels” to discourage Spain’s “appalling” behaviour in British Gibraltar territorial waters. Lord West of Spithead told The Times that he had been “concerned for some time” about the situation in Gibraltar.

Gibraltar Chronicle - The Independent Daily First Published 1801

Obviously not someone who is up to date with the current demands on the reduced RN.
Bring them back from the worlds hot spots to keep out a few fisherman and the " battleships " of the Spanish navy.

Pedestrian queues at the border on Thursday evening were the worst yet this summer as Spanish border authorities have begun testing the new passport e-gates during peak queueing times

The new electronic gates are part of Spain’s commitment to reduce queues following the European Commission’s recommendations last year. Pedestrians are requested to scan EU compliant electronic passports or ID cards, their fingerprints, and use face recognition technology

GBC - Gibraltar News - GBC TV and Radio Gibraltar

Boys, boys, boys! This is meant to be an informative thread, but it's being spoiled by way too much backbiting and you-did-no-you-did-no-you-did and I-must-have-the-last-word childishness. Could we please give that nonsense a miss and concentrate on the theme of the thread? Thanks, all who will do that.

I got a new Passport last year but I don't think it is electronic.
Do all Spaniards have e docs?

Most new UK passports are electronic, I replaced mine a couple of years back to allow online visa application for USA.

Not sure about the Spanish ID cards.

Gibraltar is in the process of replacing all ID cards with e ones, FREE OF CHARGE.
I had my photo redone a couple of weeks ago and am now awaiting the new card

Rock defence is the ‘direct responsibility’of the British Government

The Gibraltar Government yesterday denied it would be willing to carry the cost of larger Royal Navy vessels for the protection of British Gibraltar territorial waters. The Government was reacting to an interview by Lord West, a former First Sea Lord, who claimed on Forces TV yesterday, that the Gibraltar Government would be willing to pay in order to replace the current two small craft with “something larger”. But the government categorically rejected this suggestion also stating that the defence of the Rock was the direct responsibility of the British Government.

The spokesman also made clear that under the 2006 Constitution, the task of ensuring the defence of Gibraltar and the costs arising from it were the “direct responsibility of HM Government of the United Kingdom”.

Gibraltar Chronicle - The Independent Daily First Published 1801

The Spanish attitude over Gibraltar is holding back the introduction of an Open Skies agreement, and this is causing concern to European airlines.

It has now emerged that the Ukraine International Airlines has asked the European Commission to accelerate the signing of the Common Aviation Area Agreement between Ukraine and the European Union.

but the Spanish attitude over Gibraltar, which is contrary to what the Spanish Government agreed under the Cordoba agreement, is holding everything back.

European Commission asked to accelerate signing of Open Skies agreement which is being held back by Spain’s attitude to Gibraltar