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Fredbargate Oct 1st 2023 7:39 pm

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A foregone conclusion:-

United Nations: The Fourth Committee (Special Political and Decolonisation Committee) is hosting its 78th session of the General Assembly in New York from today to 11th October, covering topics including the decolonisation of the 17 remaining Non-Self-Governing Territories (as defined by the UN).
Gibraltar will argue its case again to be removed from the list.
The UN will ignore it.

Please note the UN promised to remove all Non Self Governing Territories from the list by the year 2000


DLC Oct 1st 2023 11:40 pm

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 13218824)
???

In what was his second attempt at the Investiture – with Feijoo getting 172 votes in his favour and 177 against. Two days earlier he achieved similar numbers.

The outcome means Spain is still without a government.

Caretaker government or no government, could you choose which one you're going with?

Vox didn't get their foot in the door, which I think most people would agree is a good thing, and now someone else has a try at forming a government according to constitutional rules. It's not some anarchy state.

Fredbargate Oct 2nd 2023 12:02 am

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Fredbargate Oct 12th 2023 5:28 pm

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UN: The UK government has published its speech to the fourth committee of the United Nations in recent days which Gibraltar could not attend due to the election. “The UK will not enter into arrangements under which the people of Gibraltar would pass under the sovereignty of another state against their freely and democratically expressed wishes. The United Kingdom also reaffirms that it will not enter into a process of sovereignty negotiations with which Gibraltar is not content.”

Labour Party: The UK’s commitment to Gibraltar would be “unshakable” under a Labour Government that would also defend the right of the Gibraltarians to decide their own future, Labour’s Shadow Minister for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, Catherine West, said on Monday at the Labour Party conference. Chronicle report.

Fredbargate Oct 12th 2023 6:45 pm

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Yesterday Gibraltar reelected the GSLP (Gibraltar Socualist Labour Party) into power. They have now been in power since 2011

Fredbargate Oct 15th 2023 7:14 pm

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South Mole: The Spanish Environmental Group Verdemar Ecologistas En Accion is against the proposed expansion of the South Mole to allow aircraft carriers to visit Gibraltar. The conservation group claims that they have been cataloguing limpets on the coast of Gibraltar and have been able to verify that there is a colony of patella ferruginea on the rocks of the coast where the expansion is planned.

Fredbargate Oct 18th 2023 11:37 pm

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https://www.chronicle.gi/un-all-word...s-in-new-york/

Decolonisation in New York has been “all words and no action” for 60 years when it comes to Gibraltar, Deputy Chief Minister Dr Joseph Garcia, said on Wednesday as he called on future generations to see the Rock through the prism of democracy and human rights, not a territorial claim.
Dr Garcia’s address marked 60 years since Gibraltar first appeared before the UN, where representatives have continuously called for the Rock to be struck off the list off non-self-governing territories.
Over the years, Gibraltar has appeared repeatedly before the Fourth Committee and Committee of 24 and watched as other colonies have been struck off the list.

Dr Garcia called on the representatives of former colonies like India, Australia, Canada and South Africa, as well as smaller nations like Grenada, St Lucia and Nauru, who have also achieved decolonisation.

He asked for the same route-map others have used before and to move ahead with their mandate.



Fredbargate Oct 20th 2023 1:18 am

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21st October 1805

THE BATTLE OF TRAFALGAR

https://www.yourgibraltartv.com/soci...ance-service-2

Fredbargate Oct 22nd 2023 10:44 pm

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"Spain seeks to redraw a European border to what it was before 1704. This is a frightening notion. It has huge implications that extend far beyond Gibraltar. The truth is that we are no longer in the eighteenth century. Today, people have rights. Today, people come first. Today, the wishes of the people must be paramount.”

growinspain Oct 24th 2023 5:26 am

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 13222944)
"Spain seeks to redraw a European border to what it was before 1704. This is a frightening notion. It has huge implications that extend far beyond Gibraltar. The truth is that we are no longer in the eighteenth century. Today, people have rights. Today, people come first. Today, the wishes of the people must be paramount.”

There are more people in Spain so that is a fight the rock will lose.

Good luck to you though..

Fredbargate Oct 24th 2023 5:49 am

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Originally Posted by growinspain (Post 13223163)
There are more people in Spain so that is a fight the rock will lose.

Good luck to you though..

I believe you have misunderstood the implications of that statement.

Fredbargate Oct 24th 2023 5:52 am

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 13222944)
"Today, people have rights. Today, people come first. Today, the wishes of the people must be paramount.”

But not in the eyes of the Spanish government even in Spain

Finknottle Oct 24th 2023 7:03 am

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Given that only a few thousand Brits live in Gibraltar, does anybody care.

Red Eric Oct 24th 2023 7:37 am

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 13222944)
"Spain seeks to redraw a European border to what it was before 1704. This is a frightening notion. It has huge implications that extend far beyond Gibraltar. The truth is that we are no longer in the eighteenth century. Today, people have rights. Today, people come first. Today, the wishes of the people must be paramount.”

Does that include the wishes of the 96% of the massive turnout who voted against Brexit?

Fredbargate Oct 24th 2023 7:50 pm

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Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 13223180)
Does that include the wishes of the 96% of the massive turnout who voted against Brexit?

The 96% that you keep harping on about voted against brexit, they did not vote to be part of Spain, and never will.


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