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Re: Gibraltar 2
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 12988287)
A British Overseas Territory with More self governance than Scotland, Wales or N.I.
It's own government,laws / courts and it's own money etc. |
Re: Gibraltar 2
Look upon the Daily Mail headline writer's work, ye mighty, and despair.
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Re: Gibraltar 2
Originally Posted by Joppa
(Post 12988292)
But isn't UK responsible for foreign affairs and defence? How does it work? Does Gibraltar need permission by UK to enter the Schengen area, for example?
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Re: Gibraltar 2
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 12988270)
There have been thousands of incursions into BGTW by Spanish vessels/warships complying with the above definition.
Do we take this as a declaration of war? According to the Spanish constitution of 1978, Art. 63, the King, with prior authorization by the Parliament, has the power to declare war and make peace. |
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Originally Posted by VEDShappy
(Post 12988312)
According to the Spanish constitution of 1978, Art. 63, the King, with prior authorization by the Parliament, has the power to declare war and make peace.
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Re: Gibraltar 2
Originally Posted by agree_to_disagree
(Post 12987922)
Looks to me like Gibraltar has compromised its sovereignty and association with the UK. Border with Spain has disappeared, now in Schengen or about to join, EU official checks now in Gibraltar on UK goods/passport holders arriving from UK etc etc etc....
In a joint communique issued after a whistle-stop visit by UK Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab to Gibraltar, both governments left no doubt this was a red line they would not cross. |
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It also says....
"In particular, the framework provides a pragmatic model to achieve the fluid movement of people between Gibraltar and the Schengen area. Under this model, a joint operation with the European Border and Coastguard Agency (Frontex) may thus be established for an initial implementation period of four years." https://www.gov.uk/government/news/j...t-of-gibraltar |
Re: Gibraltar 2
Originally Posted by DLC
(Post 12988311)
It's a negotiation between Spain and Gibraltar with the UK and the EU approving whatever it is they agree.
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Re: Gibraltar 2
Originally Posted by MikeJ
(Post 12989248)
As Spain refuses to recognise Gibraltar this is going to be difficult. Spain has always insisted on bi-lateral talk with the UK and refused to enter into tri-lateral negotiations. They do not recognise that Gibraltarians have the right of self determination and insist on territorial integrity.
Deal between Spain and UK plans to eliminate Gibraltar border checkpoint The tax agreement which has just been struck includes Spanish and Gibraltan tax authorities working together. Spain to take Gibraltar off tax haven list after treaty enters into force |
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Originally Posted by DLC
(Post 12989291)
The agreement made at the end of last year included representatives from Gibraltar.
Deal between Spain and UK plans to eliminate Gibraltar border checkpoint The tax agreement which has just been struck includes Spanish and Gibraltan tax authorities working together. Spain to take Gibraltar off tax haven list after treaty enters into force |
Re: Gibraltar 2
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 12989233)
The UK and Gibraltar governments made clear on Monday that Schengen border checks by Spanish officials inside Gibraltar “would not be acceptable†as part of a treaty for the Rock’s post-Brexit relationship with the bloc, now or in the future.
In a joint communique issued after a whistle-stop visit by UK Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab to Gibraltar, both governments left no doubt this was a red line they would not cross. |
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Originally Posted by MikeJ
(Post 12989298)
Represenatives (observers) not delegates. The deals are still between Spain and UK. Agreed local cooperation and cross border working arrangements but generally they do not touch on anything which could affect sovereignty.
Never any give and take. |
Re: Gibraltar 2
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 12989618)
Spain's position in any negotiations over Gibraltar have always been to accept any proposals that benefit Spain and to veto anything that may benefit Gib.
Never any give and take.
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 12989233)
In a joint communique issued after a whistle-stop visit by UK Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab to Gibraltar, both governments left no doubt this was a red line they would not cross.
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HMS Trent is now on it's way for it's deployment in Gibraltar.
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A vaccine trial that was headed by a Gibraltarian physician in Scotland has resulted in a deal to manufacture 60 million doses in the UK.
Gibraltarian Physician Dr Roy Soiza is the principal investigator the Scottish trials of the Novavax Covid-19 vaccine. |
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