Fish and Chips in Madrid
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I think part of the reason that fish and chips (english style) have not caught on with the Spanish is because we dont use the salt and vinegar, (I do BTW) on them, which is what makes the smell irresitable........
Splodging ketchup on does not produce that fabulous smell...
Splodging ketchup on does not produce that fabulous smell...
An abomination in my opinion.
Absolutely revolting and disgusting.

What say you Miyagi ?
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In my experience whilst most Spanish eat fish, and also chips they don't go in a big way for Fish and Chips served the British way. It is also very heavy food for the hot summer months so unless you have a guaranteed supply of Guiris (and most Brits I know who live in Madrid have gone native) then it might not be a winning idea.
As I mentioned before, you can get fish and chips in a few Irish pubs. Even this place offers it http://bristolbar.es/ for the low price of 12 Euros 90 !!

You get quite a large influx of Easyjetters each weekend too. Not all of them will want to try out local food, so they may well want to try out pie and chips or the fish option. In fact I know one or two people who've lived/worked in Madrid for donkey's years, who like a nice bit of British stodge at the weekend. Takes all sorts, I suppose..
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I for one think well cooked Brit style fish and chips is a fantastic meal, as well as a full Monty English breakfast.......
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Unfortunately 90% of the time they are done very poorly, usually because they are skimping on the ingredients
Have you seen the 1.99 euro full English breakfasts advertised by the Brit bars down here? One can only imagine!
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The main difference between the cheap and "realistic priced brekkie, is the amount of profit made by the owner.
A really cheap breakkie is not necessarily inferior, it is just that the owner is more desperate to get bums on seats and try to keep their head above water, and under the illusion that by lashing brekkies out cheap, their customers will make up the shortfall in the till buying tea and coffee....and showing loyalty.....which is hardly ever the case.
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From what I have seen of the cheapo breakfast, there is not much difference between the more expensive and the cheapies, the bacon may be a bit inferior, and the sausage could be quite a bit inferior, but an egg is an egg, mushrooms, and toms, and beans are much the same.
The main difference between the cheap and "realistic priced brekkie, is the amount of profit made by the owner.
A really cheap breakkie is not necessarily inferior, it is just that the owner is more desperate to get bums on seats and try to keep their head above water, and under the illusion that by lashing brekkies out cheap, their customers will make up the shortfall in the till buying tea and coffee....and showing loyalty.....which is hardly ever the case.
The main difference between the cheap and "realistic priced brekkie, is the amount of profit made by the owner.
A really cheap breakkie is not necessarily inferior, it is just that the owner is more desperate to get bums on seats and try to keep their head above water, and under the illusion that by lashing brekkies out cheap, their customers will make up the shortfall in the till buying tea and coffee....and showing loyalty.....which is hardly ever the case.
For about £9 you would get an amazing one, anything less than a £5 would be cheapo ingredients swimming in grease. There is a world of difference between good English sausages and bacon (which I love, proper pork from local farms, sometimes with apple or something in) and cheap ones (full of water, shrink when cooked, just taste salty).
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I've only ever bought English breakfasts in London - there was a ton of difference between a good and a bad one there
For about £9 you would get an amazing one, anything less than a £5 would be cheapo ingredients swimming in grease. There is a world of difference between good English sausages and bacon (which I love, proper pork from local farms, sometimes with apple or something in) and cheap ones (full of water, shrink when cooked, just taste salty).
For about £9 you would get an amazing one, anything less than a £5 would be cheapo ingredients swimming in grease. There is a world of difference between good English sausages and bacon (which I love, proper pork from local farms, sometimes with apple or something in) and cheap ones (full of water, shrink when cooked, just taste salty).
And the price of the ingredients does not necessarily coincide with the amount of grease found on the finished meal, that is the manner of cooking more than anything.
The shrikage does not enter into it too much either, a sausage is a sausage even if it is a bit shorter, and fulfills the description on the menu, same with the bacon.
Most people are not so hung up on the difference is size, it is more about the price and to pretend otherwise is foolish.
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But in London a lot of people will pay twice as much, or more, to have something nice
I disagree that there is not much difference in shrinkage and taste for sausages and bacon. Cheep pork in the UK has water and "fillers" added (things like palm oil) to reduce the meat content and make the product cheaper to make. It means the product shrinks when fried and tastes worse of course, especially if the pork is reconstituted
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On the Costas and possibly outside of London then sure you are probably right
But in London a lot of people will pay twice as much, or more, to have something nice
I disagree that there is not much difference in shrinkage and taste for sausages and bacon. Cheep pork in the UK has water and "fillers" added (things like palm oil) to reduce the meat content and make the product cheaper to make. It means the product shrinks when fried and tastes worse of course, especially if the pork is reconstituted
But in London a lot of people will pay twice as much, or more, to have something nice
I disagree that there is not much difference in shrinkage and taste for sausages and bacon. Cheep pork in the UK has water and "fillers" added (things like palm oil) to reduce the meat content and make the product cheaper to make. It means the product shrinks when fried and tastes worse of course, especially if the pork is reconstituted
What I meant was you will hardly find any difference in the sausages and bacon on a breakfast that cost 5 or 6 euro than one that is 1.99.
Most owners will buy the same ones from the same supplier as most suppliers have a "territitory" because it pays no-one to sell to one bar then the next customer is 4 miles away.
So usually the "breakfast" places in an area will have the same products includingthe baked spuds, beans, black pudding etc.
The more desperate bar owner will knock out the breakfasts cheaper, thinking it is good business, but the ingredients are usually the same as the next door place selling a brekkie for twice the price.
I was not comparing good products to inferior ones, but especifically talking about brekkiesin a business sense.
And for someone who want to save 3 euros a centimetre or 2 off the sausage length will not matter to them.
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That is not what Isaid.
What I meant was you will hardly find any difference in the sausages and bacon on a breakfast that cost 5 or 6 euro than one that is 1.99.
Most owners will buy the same ones from the same supplier as most suppliers have a "territitory" because it pays no-one to sell to one bar then the next customer is 4 miles away.
So usually the "breakfast" places in an area will have the same products includingthe baked spuds, beans, black pudding etc.
The more desperate bar owner will knock out the breakfasts cheaper, thinking it is good business, but the ingredients are usually the same as the next door place selling a brekkie for twice the price.
I was not comparing good products to inferior ones, but especifically talking about brekkiesin a business sense.
And for someone who want to save 3 euros a centimetre or 2 off the sausage length will not matter to them.
What I meant was you will hardly find any difference in the sausages and bacon on a breakfast that cost 5 or 6 euro than one that is 1.99.
Most owners will buy the same ones from the same supplier as most suppliers have a "territitory" because it pays no-one to sell to one bar then the next customer is 4 miles away.
So usually the "breakfast" places in an area will have the same products includingthe baked spuds, beans, black pudding etc.
The more desperate bar owner will knock out the breakfasts cheaper, thinking it is good business, but the ingredients are usually the same as the next door place selling a brekkie for twice the price.
I was not comparing good products to inferior ones, but especifically talking about brekkiesin a business sense.
And for someone who want to save 3 euros a centimetre or 2 off the sausage length will not matter to them.
Yes I'm sure you are right.
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Back on track and fish and chips. There was a chippie in Dudley that certainly until the late 90's (last time I went) cooked their chips in Beef dripping and they are just a different class of chips, lard is not bad and I'll use either at home from time to time, well worth it.
If this place in Madrid has good quality Cod and Hake, good spuds and its cooked fresh it should do well. The Spanish seem keen to try new food these days, plenty of them to be seen tucking into a curry or a big mac.
If this place in Madrid has good quality Cod and Hake, good spuds and its cooked fresh it should do well. The Spanish seem keen to try new food these days, plenty of them to be seen tucking into a curry or a big mac.
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For me, tartare sauce and a squeeze of lemon on battered cod maybe but definitely salt and vinegar on the chips. By the way, The Underground Chippy is located in Scruffy Murphy's in Calle de la Palma in the Malasaña area. It's a real chippy menu, including the little extras like curry sauce, mushy peas, pickled eggs and gherkins as well as, of course, battered cod and chips. Trying to work my way through the rest of the menu.





