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Old Sep 25th 2011 | 12:17 am
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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
I think you probably know the answer to that



I'm not sure I'd actually get that far to worry about it


Is there an abreiviation for the Welsh town,?
 
Old Sep 25th 2011 | 12:20 am
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Originally Posted by JLFS
Is there an abreiviation for the Welsh town,?
Yes

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Old Sep 25th 2011 | 12:20 am
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Coín - always gets 'em.

Usually pronounced "coe inn" with emphasis on the "coe". A friend of mine used to live there and swore that was how to pronounce it and that's how the Spanish did.

I suppose it's possible that they did to humour the Brits.

The Welsh town is usually called Llanfair PG
 
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Originally Posted by jimenato
Coín - always gets 'em.

Usually pronounced "coe inn" with emphasis on the "coe". A friend of mine used to live there and swore that was how to pronounce it and that's how the Spanish did.

I suppose it's possible that they did to humour the Brits.

The Welsh town is usually called Llanfair PG
Good job, I am sure most of the inhabitants would have moved out long ago if the had to write lot as their address.
 
Old Sep 25th 2011 | 12:43 am
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We have loads here that people struggle with

Xeresa
Xativa
Cullera
Alfauir
Xeraco


What is it with all these X's
 
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Originally Posted by JLFS
Is there an abreiviation for the Welsh town,?
Llanfair P.G
 
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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
We have loads here that people struggle with

Xeresa
Xativa
Cullera
Alfauir
Xeraco


What is it with all these X's
I think it's the Valenciana. Makes things even more confusing. Javea or Xabia etc
 
Old Sep 25th 2011 | 1:07 am
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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
We have loads here that people struggle with

Xeresa
Xativa
Cullera
Alfauir
Xeraco


What is it with all these X's
and XÃ bia

all those with the X are Valenciano names for the towns

X is barely used at all in Castellano

it doesn't help that the Valenciano X doesn't sound the same as the Castellano J either, so towns can have totally different sounding names depending on what language you are speaking



eta..........note to self - check whole thread before posting

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Polite guffaws from those of us living in the Axarquia



though to be fair you did say rarely.........


*ahem* barely
 
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Polite guffaws from those of us living in the Axarquia



though to be fair you did say rarely.........
 
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Originally Posted by scampicat
Llanfair P.G

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanfairpwllgwyngyll
 
Old Oct 1st 2011 | 12:37 am
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Originally Posted by Lynn R
Unlike the verbs, I think the fact that vowels are always pronounced the same way in Spanish is one of the easier things to learn. Imagine what it must be like for a Spaniard trying to learn English!
A nightmare!!!! We have 5 plain direct vowels, not your undecided mixed ones! Was it really so difficult to decide how to pronounce a vowel???

Really, after maybe 20 years learning English (first lesson: alphabet and numbers) plus 11 years living there I'm still not able to pronounce your vowels properly. At least I can communicate, but when I meet your natives for the first time they usually get their eyebrows moving all over the place while trying not to make funny faces.

BUT, and a very big but... on the other hand your verbs are sooooo easy, they more than compensate for your shy vowels and awful phrasal verbs... not to mention your funny accents

It is very hard to become fluent in any second language unless you are lucky enough to be exposed to both of them since you are a baby. Even being fluent there will always be a lot of little things that only natives will know because they are popular culture, such as old celebrities, TV catchphrases, etc that become popular many years before you went there.

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Originally Posted by evamar
A nightmare!!!! We have 5 plain direct vowels, not your undecided mixed ones! Was it really so difficult to decide how to pronounce a vowel???

Really, after maybe 20 years learning English (first lesson: alphabet and numbers) plus 11 years living there I'm still not able to pronounce your vowels properly. At least I can communicate, but when I meet your natives for the first time they usually get their eyebrows moving all over the place while trying not to make funny faces.

BUT, and a very big but... on the other hand your verbs are sooooo easy, they more than compensate for your shy vowels and awful phrasal verbs... not to mention your funny accents

It is very hard to become fluent in any second language unless you are lucky enough to be exposed to both of them since you are a baby. Even being fluent there will always be a lot of little things that only natives will know because they are popular culture, such as old celebrities, TV catchphrases, etc that become popular many years before you went there.

¡Buena suerte!
What's a phrasal verb?
 
Old Oct 1st 2011 | 12:49 am
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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy


So tell me how you think a Spaniard would pronounce that wonderful Welsh town ...... Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysilio gogogoch
As a Spanish woman married to a Welsh guy, please let me answer.... I start with jlanfeir... forget all the stuff in the middle which I substitute with lots of jlas an rrrrs, and then finish with a magnificent gogogoj!

The worst thing is that I can't counterattack with Spanish J's an R's as most Welsh people can pronounce them perfectly... not English people though!

For them I simply use the "Perro de San Roque" thingy and my silly honour is saved; I can do the "She sells sea shells in the seashore".

"El perro de San Roque no tiene rabo porque Ramón Rodríguez se lo ha cortado"
 
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Originally Posted by scampicat
What's a phrasal verb?
When you have a verb and then a preposition. Problem is that the preoposition completely changes the meaning the verb would have with another one. Most of them make no sense in Spanish, and some are completely the opposite a Spaniard would use.

That is one of the most difficult things to learn in English for a non native.
 


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