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Re: UK Customs Powers
Originally Posted by Checkala
(Post 8976077)
I have been to England very occasionally. Last time on checking in on departure I leaned forward and cupped my ear as I have a hearing problem especially in noisy environments. The official accused me of abuse and threatening behaviour and was about to call the security police when my wife intervened and explained my hearing difficulty. There was another occasion when I was arbitarily threatened with arrest simply because I was wearing a bum bag which was to be counted as hand baggage and I disputed this! Thankfully we do not get that kind of treatment in Spain. England has indeed changed! Thank God I'll never see England again!
http://www.3am.co.uk/jedward-make-of...assment/24775/ |
Re: UK Customs Powers
Originally Posted by Checkala
(Post 8976077)
I have been to England very occasionally. Last time on checking in on departure I leaned forward and cupped my ear as I have a hearing problem especially in noisy environments. The official accused me of abuse and threatening behaviour and was about to call the security police when my wife intervened and explained my hearing difficulty. There was another occasion when I was arbitarily threatened with arrest simply because I was wearing a bum bag which was to be counted as hand baggage and I disputed this! Thankfully we do not get that kind of treatment in Spain. England has indeed changed! Thank God I'll never see England again!
I've not noticed the conduct of British customs and security personnel to be any worse than that in any other country, but possibly better than quite a few. |
Re: UK Customs Powers
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
(Post 8976109)
I've suffered similar less than sympathetic treatment in a Spanish airport, however I don't judge a whole nation on the basis of one experience.
I've not noticed the conduct of British customs and security personnel to be any worse than that in any other country, but possibly better than quite a few. |
Re: UK Customs Powers
Originally Posted by steviedeluxe
(Post 8976084)
I don't know if this is in the same category, but weren't the pop duo Jedward harrassed at uk airports?
http://www.3am.co.uk/jedward-make-of...assment/24775/ what worries me more, is that you are reading their blog:eek::rofl: |
Re: UK Customs Powers
Originally Posted by Checkala
(Post 8976340)
However, what is apparent is that the English do like their rules and regulations! That used to be a criticism levelled at Germans (Alles in ordung! Sicher und sauberkeit!). I am always amused by the necessity for five fire doors per room in hotels where often some require the services of Hercules to gain access. Did you see the case of a lady who dropped a piece of pie in a park and which the birds devoured - she was in court with a possible £20,000 fine!! Sorry I never heard the full details nor the outcome. Closer to home one sees the endless bickerings in the press about illegal cars running without ITV or car tax. I've never seen such mutterings in the local Spanish press. The attitude is - if you can get away with it - why not! Perhaps I'm an anarchist at heart but the ever increasing arbitary enforcement of minor regulations appears to totally lack human feeling. .
Why should tax paying and law abiding citizens pay for what to me is criminal activity in avoiding tax. One only has to look at Greece to see what happens when that is the norm. I agree with you that there are a lot of ' Jobsworths' in the Uk. Sad Bast.. |
Re: Ferry crossing back to the UK or drive?
I know we have karma awards. but are there "off subject awards" too?:rofl:;)
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Re: Ferry crossing back to the UK or drive?
Originally Posted by Casa Santo Estevo
(Post 8977585)
I know we have karma awards. but are there "off subject awards" too?:rofl:;)
From my point of view I would reply to an off subject reply that has been started by someone else. In respect of my second point I would not get involved in 'slagging' another member off. Perhaps I should have started a new thread on the subject? |
Re: UK Customs Powers
Originally Posted by johnnyone
(Post 8977213)
The fire regulations in the Uk has resulted in the saving of many lives and a reduction in major fires to the extent that when one occurs it is usually national news. Spain could do well to comply with decent fire regulations.
Why should tax paying and law abiding citizens pay for what to me is criminal activity in avoiding tax. One only has to look at Greece to see what happens when that is the norm. I agree with you that there are a lot of ' Jobsworths' in the Uk. Sad Bast.. The question of tax is a very deep one indeed in my opinion and brings into question the integrity of government itself. Here are a few thoughts to get started. Firstly let me describe an experience I had in Spain. I bought a property in 2005 just before the market collapsed. Two years later I was faced with an accusation of tax evasion in respect of the declared value of my garage. The tax authority claimed that I should have declared €13,000 for my parking space. In fact if was not worth much more than 50% of that even then which I declared. Today it would probably sell for 20-30% of the claimed value! I had to pay a €600 fine plus similar legal costs as my appeal failed. As you probably know, it is customary to under declare transfer values in Spain since the tax at 7% would be a very heavy burden and most buyers would not agree to go ahead unless there were a degree of flexibility. So my point here would be - do you think it is right that I was fined even though my lawyer dealt with the paperwork and provided figures according to local custom? You may be tempted to say that the law must be obeyed however unfair it may be. You might say instead that local customs should be respected! Which is right? Now let me direct you to the well know stories where corruption has led to illegal buildings especially in Andalucía and where in certain cases honest English people have paid all their taxes only to see their homes confiscated or bulldozed. Must the law be obeyed without question at all times?? Should these people return to England bankrupt to live on National Assistance? Are you going to tell me that such unfairness does not ever occur in England? Will you tell me that corruption is more a Spanish thing? We have only to look at the corruption in the highest levels of government in England to know that there isn't much difference. It is just that the English are much cleverer at covering it up than the Spanish. Dare I say - more professional at it! Politicians of all colours do not understand the meaning of truth. They are lent on by so many vested interests that how can one hope for true honesty and integrity amongst them. I am not going to consult the lists of names again but I doubt if there are more than a tiny handful of honest MPs in the House. The man in the street is pillared for the smallest tax transgression whilst the top men escape with total impunity. I only need mention "banker". You know the rest. Whilst such a corrupt structure exists my sympathies go to those who can avoid or evade paying taxes demanded. I am sorry. Until those in high authority practice what they preach, I shall continue to see tax collection as something to be avoided whenever possible. |
Re: Ferry crossing back to the UK or drive?
Originally Posted by johnnyone
(Post 8977818)
From my short time as a member it seems to me that two things generally occur as a topic develops. One is that the thread goes off subject and the second is that replies become a personal slanging match between certain members.
From my point of view I would reply to an off subject reply that has been started by someone else. In respect of my second point I would not get involved in 'slagging' another member off. Perhaps I should have started a new thread on the subject? Yes a new thread would be appropriate. I'll start one as soon as I can establish the right place for thorny issues such as this! As to mutual bashing - how refreshing to see your comment - there's far too much confrontation at all levels of society. The English have been fighting in Afghanistan on and off for (what? 200 years) and still nothing is settled.! |
Re: Ferry crossing back to the UK or drive?
Originally Posted by johnnyone
(Post 8977818)
From my short time as a member it seems to me that two things generally occur as a topic develops. One is that the thread goes off subject and the second is that replies become a personal slanging match between certain members.
From my point of view I would reply to an off subject reply that has been started by someone else. In respect of my second point I would not get involved in 'slagging' another member off. Perhaps I should have started a new thread on the subject? Did you not notice the :rofl:;) at the end......:confused: |
Re: Ferry crossing back to the UK or drive?
Originally Posted by Casa Santo Estevo
(Post 8977977)
Did you not notice the :rofl:;) at the end......:confused:
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Re: Ferry crossing back to the UK or drive?
Originally Posted by Checkala
(Post 8977996)
Sorry not sure what ROFL icon is?
Now lets try to get back on topic please |
Re: Ferry crossing back to the UK or drive?
Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
(Post 8978008)
Its a system of showing emotion, he was laughing
Now lets try to get back on topic please |
Re: Ferry crossing back to the UK or drive?
Originally Posted by Checkala
(Post 8978040)
Point taken - I'll cease posting here!
You don't like people expressing emotion on here and being friendly? |
Re: Ferry crossing back to the UK or drive?
Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
(Post 8978106)
I'm not sure I understand why you want to stop posting here:confused:
You don't like people expressing emotion on here and being friendly? |
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