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Old Oct 9th 2012, 12:15 pm
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Reported on last nights news.

Travel Agents in the Canary Islands have noticed that many are now booking one way tickets to South American Countries.

It is thought that because of the employment crisis, many are finding life here impossible and are returning to their countries of origin.
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This isn't news. The Spanish government is even helping them with their fare.
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Yes, the plan has been running since 2008.

You can cash in your future unemployment benefits so long as you agree to leave and not come back for 3 years. You get 40% before you leave and 60% when you arrive home. It only applies to certain (mainly South American) non EU countries.
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so no SS President Warfield, later renamed as Exodus 1947, to ferry them home home then ? ?
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There was an article in this week's Sunday Times about the large numbers of Spaniards now emigrating to South American countries, reversing the trend of migration in the other direction in times gone by. It said that over 75,000 have gone to Argentina.
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Might not be news to you, but it is news here.

Many emigrated in the 1940's and 50's on the ghost ships from here, mainly to Venezuela and Cuba. But when Hugo and Fidel started ruining their countries, they and their children and grand children returned to the Canary islands, where they still have houses and land.

However since the financial restrictions imposed by the dictators of the European Union, the young are leaving. It is believed that he population of this island has reduced by over 25%, this is having a drastic effect on the small businesses, causing some to close and more jobs to be lost, and no doubt more emigration.

Seems to be a downward spiral effect with no end in sight.............
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Might not be news to you, but it is news here.

Many emigrated in the 1940's and 50's on the ghost ships from here, mainly to Venezuela and Cuba. But when Hugo and Fidel started ruining their countries, they and their children and grand children returned to the Canary islands, where they still have houses and land.

However since the financial restrictions imposed by the dictators of the European Union, the young are leaving. It is believed that he population of this island has reduced by over 25%, this is having a drastic effect on the small businesses, causing some to close and more jobs to be lost, and no doubt more emigration.

Seems to be a downward spiral effect with no end in sight.............
only "believed" when with such a small island you should be noticing people missing ??

with such a massive impact perhaps all of us in BE Spain should be guiding all those not happy in the UK to come out and keep you afloat
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only "believed" when with such a small island you should be noticing people missing ??

with such a massive impact perhaps all of us in BE Spain should be guiding all those not happy in the UK to come out and keep you afloat
We noticed that many had left after the earth tremors and last years volcanic activity.

However recently the population have had to obtain a residents certificate from the ayuntamiento, in order to take advantage of the reduction in travel fares offered to Canary Island residents.

It was thought there there would be just under 11,000 applicants, turns out to be nearer 7,000 fair enough there are those that do not wish to participate, but the Empadronado is also reflecting a similar drop in population.

Regarding those that are not happy in the U.K., I do not think they would be happy here, because English is rarely spoken, there are only five English residents on the island, not one Yorkshire pudding, full English breakfast, Tetley Beer establishment for 75 miles. Send the said unhappy ones to Cabo Verde

What we need is more quality tourists, from the Iberian peninsular, there has been a proposal to extend the runway another 800 metres, to attract flights from Spain and further afield, that will cost money though.

We do get the odd tourist from the U.K. but they are few. Last week we had a cruise ship visit, they were apparently all Germans.
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We noticed that many had left after the earth tremors and last years volcanic activity.

However recently the population have had to obtain a residents certificate from the ayuntamiento, in order to take advantage of the reduction in travel fares offered to Canary Island residents.

It was thought there there would be just under 11,000 applicants, turns out to be nearer 7,000 fair enough there are those that do not wish to participate, but the Empadronado is also reflecting a similar drop in population.

Regarding those that are not happy in the U.K., I do not think they would be happy here, because English is rarely spoken, there are only five English residents on the island, not one Yorkshire pudding, full English breakfast, Tetley Beer establishment for 75 miles. Send the said unhappy ones to Cabo Verde

What we need is more quality tourists, from the Iberian peninsular, there has been a proposal to extend the runway another 800 metres, to attract flights from Spain and further afield, that will cost money though.

We do get the odd tourist from the U.K. but they are few. Last week we had a cruise ship visit, they were apparently all Germans.
the problems will be either
you would be invaded by Brits who are fed up with life in general or with not being able to speak the local language - IMHO Punjabi is quite difficult
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you would be invaded by Brits who only speak Punjabi and sing-song English.

as to quality tourists, well the problem mixes in with the runway extension - which come first the horse or the cart ??
however, ISTR you don't pay duty on anything out there so you are automatically about 20% better off.

if 10 years ago I had told my sister she would be a Cruise Queen I would have been hit heavily on the back of the head. Now - goes whenever she can, and she's not German. So perhaps your publicity dept needs to talk to the right cruise lines and give them more free fruit on visiting.

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Very sad to hear of cruise liners moving in on the land that time forgot.
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We pay 7% IGC.

The Citizens of the U.K. do not view our location as a tourist destination, we are somewhat remote and the ferry or air fares for none residents are very often more expensive than the initial air fares from the U.K. to the archipelago.

The local Cabildo having watched, in horror, the tourist industry develop on the other islands also in the Mediterranean resorts, having seen the detrimental effect caused to the local culture and life style, have been and are actively preventing such practices.

Northern Europeans are always welcome, but they are not really catered for, the restaurants and other establishments mainly cater for the Canary Islanders tastes, and to a minor degree, those from the Iberian part of Spain and the former American colonies.

Regarding cruise liners, there are fourteen houses and one bar in Puerto de la Estaca, no shops, no people, nothing. A shuttle bus runs to the Capital Valverde, which has a population in the city of under 3,000. Like I have said northern European tourists, on board ship or otherwise, are not catered for.

In the main the tourists here visit for walking holidays or to the famous Mar de las Calmas for scuba diving.Perhaps to the Parador hotel just to chill out.

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
Very sad to hear of cruise liners moving in on the land that time forgot.
The effect is absolutely minimal, the only benefit gained is by the bus company, running a shuttle and a few tours.

Just in case you didn't know, we now have electricity and flush toilets
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We pay 7% IGC.

The Citizens of the U.K. do not view our location as a tourist destination, we are somewhat remote and the ferry or air fares for none residents are very often more expensive than the initial air fares from the U.K. to the archipelago.

The local Cabildo having watched, in horror, the tourist industry develop on the other islands also in the Mediterranean resorts, having seen the detrimental effect caused to the local culture and life style, have been and are actively preventing such practices.

Northern Europeans are always welcome, but they are not really catered for, the restaurants and other establishments mainly cater for the Canary Islanders tastes, and to a minor degree, those from the Iberian part of Spain and the former American colonies.

Regarding cruise liners, there are fourteen houses and one bar in Puerto de la Estaca, no shops, no people, nothing. A shuttle bus runs to the Capital Valverde, which has a population in the city of under 3,000. Like I have said northern European tourists, on board ship or otherwise, are not catered for.

In the main the tourists here visit for walking holidays or to the famous Mar de las Calmas for scuba diving. Or to the Parador hotel just to chill out.
and you don't notice when one person goes missing, letalone a couple of thousand

too much time watching Sky and having conversations in BE Spain
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Originally Posted by Domino
and you don't notice when one person goes missing, letalone a couple of thousand

too much time watching Sky and having conversations in BE Spain
Time to unsubscribe, the thread has gone off topic.
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