Originally Posted by Rotor

I`m with you on your first few paragraphs , retiree Brits can no longer just up sticks and live in the EU and its not sinking in with many on this forum , having wealth or being educated and having a job offer is now the only way Brits can move to Spain legally , the same as it is with nearly all other countries .

Brexit came about to benefit the UK as a country and I believe it is already , the Vaccine roll out for starters , nothing is more important than health and the EU is failing it`s people miserably .

The chances of Scotland becoming independent then joining the EU are extremely low even if the SNP win this week , I believe it would possibly see Scotland becoming the next Romania , they already have the corruption in place, oil will be a low value commodity in 20 years so what else do they have ? not much.

Originally Posted by Chipmonk

Unfortunately I think many people have failed to realise how Brexit has altered things for UK persons. You dont get people saying I am thinking of moving to USA to start a bar or B and B because we know that we cant just move without permission and that visas are required and that businesses need to be quite sizeable and practical. For decades we have taken it for granted that free-movement in the EU was only possible because we contributed and were required to compromise with other member states. That has now finished completely. Europe no longer views us as members so they will not let us participate in the project irrespective of how much money we say we will spend or how we wont be a burden on them or that we law abiding people or we invented football and the industrial revolution etc. Britain has chosen to not to be part of a team and never to compromise with other states as it believes whatever the outcome is Sovereignty is the most important thing. So we can no longer up and move to EU countries with anything like the equality we could before. Wealthy individuals who effectively will be seen as net contributors can of course and those who have skills that enrich the country can but rest can't. It will no doubt be a few years until post asking about moving to Spain drop off as it becomes more commonly acknowledged. Unfortunately for many life might look fairly bleak if all your opportunities rest in a small island with 60 million people. I am sorry for being so blunt but Brexit was an awful awful thing that was designed to bind the UK to agreement that will exist for at least my sons generation and will no doubt result in a huge waste of talent. As he was born in Scotland and lived there for 10 years there is still a possibility that that Scotland could choose to leave the UK and align itself with the EU and I for one will pray for that outcome irrespective of all the potential difficulties and upheavals it might bring.

Originally Posted by Rotor

I`m with you on your first few paragraphs , retiree Brits can no longer just up sticks and live in the EU and its not sinking in with many on this forum , having wealth or being educated and having a job offer is now the only way Brits can move to Spain legally , the same as it is with nearly all other countries .

Brexit came about to benefit the UK as a country and I believe it is already , the Vaccine roll out for starters , nothing is more important than health and the EU is failing it`s people miserably .

The chances of Scotland becoming independent then joining the EU are extremely low even if the SNP win this week , I believe it would possibly see Scotland becoming the next Romania , they already have the corruption in place, oil will be a low value commodity in 20 years so what else do they have ? not much.