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Old Feb 1st 2011, 4:59 pm
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Can anyone advise as to the procedure, if you are only in Spain certain times of the year, do you still have to pay the standard charge each month ?
Or is there another way.
Any advice would be helpful.
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Friends returned to UK in Sept and their electricity supply with Iberdrola is turned off via the main fuse board except when I go round to check everything is ok.

They still get a bill from Iberdrola usually for around €17. This is for the equipment rental (presumably the meter) and for the standing charge.
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Can anyone advise as to the procedure, if you are only in Spain certain times of the year, do you still have to pay the standard charge each month ?
Or is there another way.
Any advice would be helpful.
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Yes, you have to pay the monthly charge even if you don't use any units.

It's just the same with a phone line.
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Originally Posted by Fred James
Yes, you have to pay the monthly charge even if you don't use any units.

It's just the same with a phone line.
Same as UK where you pay a "standing charge" to cover the costs of equipment (cables, pipelines etc.) you pay a monthly charge in Spain.
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Actually you can have a tariff which doesn't include a standing charge.We have this from Scottish Power. We don't pay a standing charge for either electric or gas when we're away, although we still have to pay Iberdrola (which actually owns Scottish Power LOL) every month, whether we consume anything or not. I assume the cost is in the unit price.
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Originally Posted by BillyJo
Actually you can have a tariff which doesn't include a standing charge.We have this from Scottish Power. We don't pay a standing charge for either electric or gas when we're away, although we still have to pay Iberdrola (which actually owns Scottish Power LOL) every month, whether we consume anything or not. I assume the cost is in the unit price.
So what is it that you are paying every month?

What does it call it on the bill?
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All we pay for is every KW hour we consume at the unit price, plus VAT at 5%!!!. There are no other charges
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To avoid confusion, can we please keep the topic to electricity in SPAIN.
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All we pay for is every KW hour we consume at the unit price, plus VAT at 5%!!!. There are no other charges
... so you're saying that if you are not there for, say, 6 months of the year, then for those six months you pay nothing?
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Whilst I take your point Fred, I do think the differences between the two countries are relevant to the discussion.

Absolutely right, I don't pay anything, whereas in Spain I pay €0.52 per day (my potencia is 9.2kw) whether I'm there or not.

What I'm not clear about is whether this has been driven by the deregulation of the market in the UK, which has been in place for about 15 years, whereas, of course in Spain it only happened last year. We shall see

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Whilst I take your point Fred, I do think the differences between the two countries are relevant to the discussion.
I'm not sure why - what you pay in the UK has no relevance to what you pay in Spain and only serves to confuse the issue.

For 90% of domestic customers in Spain, the market has not yet been deregulated as they are all still on the state controlled TUR tariff.
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Well, actually as I pay bills in both countries, I was going to post a comparison of the unit cost, based on my consumptions (because if you don't use consumptions it's very difficult to compare) but if you don't think it's relevant or others won't be interested, I won't post it.
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Originally Posted by BigD
Can anyone advise as to the procedure, if you are only in Spain certain times of the year, do you still have to pay the standard charge each month ?
Or is there another way.
Any advice would be helpful.
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Can anyone confirm the Standard Charge, I don't know where 17 euros came from , but we pay much more than that, can we compare if possible ? I will check mine I am sure all the extra charges are 40 odd euros.
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Can anyone confirm the Standard Charge, I don't know where 17 euros came from , but we pay much more than that, can we compare if possible ? I will check mine I am sure all the extra charges are 40 odd euros.
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The standing charge is about €2 per KW of contracted potencia per month.

So, if you are on an 8.8kw contract it would be about €17 a month.

You need to check on your last bill what is shown under "potencia contactada"
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Originally Posted by BigD
Can anyone confirm the Standard Charge, I don't know where 17 euros came from , but we pay much more than that, can we compare if possible ? I will check mine I am sure all the extra charges are 40 odd euros.
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I'm sure I posted this before but here goes again anyway;

Contracted rate - 0.056529 euros/kW/day so for 3.5kW for a month this is about 5.90 euros

PLUS

rental of equipment - 0.050301 euros/day so this is 1.5 euros per month.


Total monthly charge with no consumption based on 3.5kW is 7.4 euros



PLUS IVA of course
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