Election result.
#31
Straw Man.










Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 46,302
From: That, there, that's not my post count... nothing to see here, move along.











So the Scottish Nationalist party got only 1.7% of the vote, but then again, they didn't have a candidate in the vast majority of the seats, what is more important to them is the % of vote they got in SCOTLAND, the only place where they had candidates, and I bet it's a hell of a lot higher. .
#32
19.9% Mike, but thats not what I am talking about, the SNP are suggesting that an Alliance should be formed in Westminster, to stop the Tories taking power, thats not in SCOTLAND, its in Westminster, where the British parliament sits, we are not talking Scotland here, and when we look at it that way, they hold just 1.7% of the votes, just 400,000 votes, compared to the 10 million plus of the Tories....
Should have allowed Scotland indepedence 30 years ago then? They always complain that they don't get the government they vote for, so I don't think they'll have any sympathy for your argument here. It's strange though - the Conservatives would dominate Parliament if Scotland left the union, yet it's the Tories who are the biggest opponent of independence. for Scotland, they even opposed devolution.
#33
Straw Man.










Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 46,302
From: That, there, that's not my post count... nothing to see here, move along.











Should have allowed Scotland indepedence 30 years ago then? They always complain that they don't get the government they vote for, so I don't think they'll have any sympathy for your argument here. It's strange though - the Conservatives would dominate Parliament if Scotland left the union, yet it's the Tories who are the biggest opponent of independence. for Scotland, they even opposed devolution.
#34
BE Enthusiast





Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 856
From: York, PA, USA











What I've asked myself was, do you think the Tories could have won a bigger share of the vote, if they stuck to their more traditional values and stood apart from the other 2 parties? I watched the debates, and they seemed to agree with each other a lot.....
#35
Whilst the Libs didn't do as well as expected, I wonder if it had not been for the USA type TV debates and Cleggmania, they would have done much worse and the Tories would have scraped an overall majority, as seemed likely a few weeks ago.
Whilst the Tories appear to be reasonably flexible in trying to do a deal, there is a huge amount of pressure from within the Lib party to get everything they are asking for.
They almost give the impression that they should be in the driving seat, despite the fact they only have about a sixth of the seats that the Tories won.
Hopefully the Libs will come down from their ivory towers and get real, but I can't see it,and should their intransigence lead to another election they will most likely suffer the most.
In the meantime Labour will have the boost of a new leader,so even a re-run election may be too close to call and could end the same way again.
What then?..
Whilst the Tories appear to be reasonably flexible in trying to do a deal, there is a huge amount of pressure from within the Lib party to get everything they are asking for.
They almost give the impression that they should be in the driving seat, despite the fact they only have about a sixth of the seats that the Tories won.
Hopefully the Libs will come down from their ivory towers and get real, but I can't see it,and should their intransigence lead to another election they will most likely suffer the most.
In the meantime Labour will have the boost of a new leader,so even a re-run election may be too close to call and could end the same way again.
What then?..
#36
BE Enthusiast





Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 856
From: York, PA, USA











Whilst the Libs didn't do as well as expected, I wonder if it had not been for the USA type TV debates and Cleggmania, they would have done much worse and the Tories would have scraped an overall majority, as seemed likely a few weeks ago.
Whilst the Tories appear to be reasonably flexible in trying to do a deal, there is a huge amount of pressure from within the Lib party to get everything they are asking for.
They almost give the impression that they should be in the driving seat, despite the fact they only have about a sixth of the seats that the Tories won.
Hopefully the Libs will come down from their ivory towers and get real, but I can't see it,and should their intransigence lead to another election they will most likely suffer the most.
In the meantime Labour will have the boost of a new leader,so even a re-run election may be too close to call and could end the same way again.
What then?..
Whilst the Tories appear to be reasonably flexible in trying to do a deal, there is a huge amount of pressure from within the Lib party to get everything they are asking for.
They almost give the impression that they should be in the driving seat, despite the fact they only have about a sixth of the seats that the Tories won.
Hopefully the Libs will come down from their ivory towers and get real, but I can't see it,and should their intransigence lead to another election they will most likely suffer the most.
In the meantime Labour will have the boost of a new leader,so even a re-run election may be too close to call and could end the same way again.
What then?..

#37
I sense there's gonna be another election coming. People in power don't give up power easily, especially if you're Nick Clegg and the ball's in your court. If he's a typical human being, he'll try to force the Tories to go to at least the center and adopt some Lib Dem policy in exchange to keep Labour in check, or Clegg allies with Labour and brings the Tories down, forcing another election. Why can't American politics be this interesting 

#38
Hi, all this talk about nobudy could seeing the crisis coming is rubish. Are they saying that nobody in the goverment saw what was happening, nobody in the treasury, nobody in the FSA, nobody in the Bank of england. Do me a favour, all Brown was interested in was getting the tax reveues in to squander.
Baz
Baz
#39
Hi, all this talk about nobudy could seeing the crisis coming is rubish. Are they saying that nobody in the goverment saw what was happening, nobody in the treasury, nobody in the FSA, nobody in the Bank of england. Do me a favour, all Brown was interested in was getting the tax reveues in to squander.
Baz
Baz
#40
Thread Starter
Banned










Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 7,653
From: Vejer de la Fra., Cadiz











Hi, all this talk about nobudy could seeing the crisis coming is rubish. Are they saying that nobody in the goverment saw what was happening, nobody in the treasury, nobody in the FSA, nobody in the Bank of england. Do me a favour, all Brown was interested in was getting the tax reveues in to squander.
Baz
Baz
Please don't make me laugh. They are all as bad as each other.




