Fredbargate

I don't think a marina in that location will help CE to any extent.
Also if the project attracts housing development it will be bad for CE

finca steve

Quite right but as others have said it is probably a while away so lots of time to change minds/correct planning mistakes etc.

I would like the marina to go ahead from a buisness perspective so I am all for it wherever it goes.

Loco

Your advice is normally spot but on this occasion your info appears wrong.

I have just come back from lunching with a close contact of the Alcalde who informed me that they expect all the Hotels to reopen and the Airport and Marina to be constructed once they have concluded the deal for the Turkmenistan National Rugby Union team to play Ayamontinos United!

It is of course subject to EU funding.


Best

Loco

PS Turkmenistan has been playing Rugby Union since 1908. I have no clue how long Ayamontinos United have been playing football but it will certainly make for an interesting game !

finca steve

I heard the Kyrgs and Usbeks were playing the first away game in Ayamonte. That would cause a mass exodus!

Carol&John

Hi Jon,

Glad to hear that your holiday is going well.

Ah, so Holland have just scored a goal against Uruguay... Are you wearing a blue or an orange shirt tonight? The market must be doing a good trade on footie tops!

I haven't a clue where the money comes from to fund all these plans! Perhaps Spain will do a deal with Portugal to dredge the mouth of the Guadiana river? ¿Quién sabe? Who knows? Edit: Read the article again and it says it is a joint project?

Re: Fred's (and Steve's) question about the plan. I too was surprised to see the marina south of the bridge (especially as the plan indicates Ayamonte to the north.) If you read the comments below the article you'll find we are not the only ones to feel confused.

Perhaps it's a photo that needs to be flipped and then turned over? If you look at the Portuguese coastline, however, it appears to be correct.

Anyhow, the article reports about the arroyo Pedraza which, if I recall correctly, flows underneath the new Costa Esuri bridge and out towards the river via the marismas - next to the present day fish farm. This photo/plan appears to locate the marina and other structures (a "newer but smaller" fish farm and dry dock) in the marismas directly below the hill on top of which sits the parador. I am confused about these two marismas.

Marina Esuri doesn't have anything to do with Costa Esuri according to this plan. Or does it? The article mentions Costa Esuri as a complejo turístico with spa and sporting facilites. Surely it refers to the partially built hotel and/or the commercial centre?

Carol

P.S. Loco and Jur, huy! Post your voleibol y rugby comments in the sala de deportes.
P.P.S. Oh dear, I guess that includes other sporting comments. 1:3Guilty!

jimenato

NB... there is no point whatever in measuring temperature in direct sunlight. It always gives a false reading

Loco

Get the Vodka in!

EsuriJohn

Hola Steve long time no speak. Yes I have blown the picture up as big as I can and you are right the motorway starts upper right and sweeps down to the bottom about the centre of the picture. At top right you can see the beginnings of the slip roads from the r/about up to the motorway and if you project the top road back to the junction it makes sense. This ties in with the plan you posted about 2005 which is somewhere on my hard drive but not found it yet.

The various articles also mention the involvement of Acunova (the fish farm company) which is signed to the left as you crest the hill into CE. If I remember correctly they had sold about 2/3 of their farm to form the marina and this made it possible since they already have a commercial use in the protected marisma!

The bridge at the top of the plan is the viaduct into Esuri wrongly named on the plan Puente International but hey this is Spain and a news paper to boot.

Fredbargate

Sorry John & Kath

The bridge at the top goes to a place named Portugal which last time I looked was not in CE


I would imagine this is an artists impression with a lot of emphasis on piss

finca steve

Us white haired wrinklies don't need this sort of help to become confused. We can do it by ourselves!

We shall just have to wait and see. Or maybe just wait and wait and wait.......

Hi John and Kath good to hear from you. Hope all is well in your baronial hall.

EsuriJohn

Yes I am sure it is an artists impression and the artist has wrongly named the Sea and Sun development Portugal.

If you save the picture and then load it and rotate it through 90* clockwise it all begins to make sense. As artists impressions always do they show the Ayamonte Power Station as a grey smudge at the center top of the drawing surrounded bya forest and car parking but I am certain it is right on top of the fish farm to the north of the international bridge.

spanish_lawyer

I only hope who has drawn the plane does not take proyect!!. It seems the varaderos (slipway) are in the church of Ayamonte (San Francisco).

Fredbargate

Hi J & K
You are a lot closer than me and I would imagine more familiar with the area.
I have only driven into CE once and visited the area of the fish farm 2 or 3 times.
I have spent much more time on the land to the south of the bridge in both countries as it is ok for twitching.
As Steve says " We shall just have to wait and see. Or maybe just wait and wait and wait......."

I have tried the rotation, but the water is very wide when compared with what I can see on Google Earth.

Time may tell if it ever happens.

Fredbargate

But that is well out of the water, the boats will be lovely and dry to have their bottoms painted

EsuriJohn

Your right the river is normally only about 4m wide at best but this last winter saw the whole expanse of the marisma under water the viaduct columns all stood in water and you could not differentiate the fish farm from anything else so the area of the Marina and the berths would require excavation and bunding to float the boats at any state of the tide!