El galeón "Andalucía"
#31
Re: El galeón "Andalucía"
Malta
http://enelgaleonandalucia.blogspot.com/
http://www.sevillaactualidad.com/not...con-exito.html
next stop Haifa.
http://enelgaleonandalucia.blogspot.com/
http://www.sevillaactualidad.com/not...con-exito.html
next stop Haifa.
#32
Re: El galeón "Andalucía"
A sixteenth-century Spanish galleon was a ship of 45 - 55 meters long (which increased with the years) and could easily weigh 1000 tonnes (2204622.621 lb). I do not know if what they have done is like a Spanish galleon in size, because were large vessels
#33
Re: El galeón "Andalucía"
Hola relampago,
According to one of the blogs (reference on page 1) this seventeenth century replica measures 51m long (eslora). (Would that be correct?)
It is like the galleons of yore that sailed to Manila (Islas Filipinas) and China; hence, why it is going to the Expo in Shanghai.
According to one of the blogs (reference on page 1) this seventeenth century replica measures 51m long (eslora). (Would that be correct?)
It is like the galleons of yore that sailed to Manila (Islas Filipinas) and China; hence, why it is going to the Expo in Shanghai.
#34
Re: El galeón "Andalucía"
Hola relampago,
According to one of the blogs (reference on page 1) this seventeenth century replica measures 51m long (eslora). (Would that be correct?)
It is like the galleons of yore that sailed to Manila (Islas Filipinas) and China; hence, why it is going to the Expo in Shanghai.
According to one of the blogs (reference on page 1) this seventeenth century replica measures 51m long (eslora). (Would that be correct?)
It is like the galleons of yore that sailed to Manila (Islas Filipinas) and China; hence, why it is going to the Expo in Shanghai.
For this reason I said I found it strange that the vessel in the photo is a galleon, since they could weigh easily 1000 tonnes, or more, as the Santa Trinidad or the San Diego, both of 2000 tonnes
Galleon Santa Trinidad (route of Manila), XVIII century
Displacement 2000 t
Length 51.5 m
Beam 15.2 m
Depth 10.1 m
Draught 9.3 m
Armament 54 guns
413 Crew crew
However, there is another " Santa Trinidad ", but was a line ship, not a galleon, and was the largest ship of the XVIII century, which was one of the 237 line ships that the Spanish armada bounced. You have one, the Victory
Last edited by Relampago; Apr 16th 2010 at 3:58 pm.
#35
Re: El galeón "Andalucía"
¡hola relámpago!
I see that you have edited the (large!) photos of the Santa Trinidad. It does appear to be larger than the Galeón Andalucía, but, as you mentioned, the Santa Trinidad is an XVIIIth century vessel, so perhaps it was built larger to accommodate horses, cannons, troops, etc?
The galleon Andalucia has a crew of only 40, but it does have modern fittings (fibre optics etc.), thereby also reducing the weight.
I, too, am not an expert on sailing ships. Nao, carabela, carraca o galeón for me are words with a romantic history.
Here is a map to plot it's course:
http://guadalquivirriodehistoria.es/mapa-de-la-travesia
I see that you have edited the (large!) photos of the Santa Trinidad. It does appear to be larger than the Galeón Andalucía, but, as you mentioned, the Santa Trinidad is an XVIIIth century vessel, so perhaps it was built larger to accommodate horses, cannons, troops, etc?
The galleon Andalucia has a crew of only 40, but it does have modern fittings (fibre optics etc.), thereby also reducing the weight.
I, too, am not an expert on sailing ships. Nao, carabela, carraca o galeón for me are words with a romantic history.
Here is a map to plot it's course:
http://guadalquivirriodehistoria.es/mapa-de-la-travesia
#36
Re: El galeón "Andalucía"
¡hola relámpago!
I see that you have edited the (large!) photos of the Santa Trinidad. It does appear to be larger than the Galeón Andalucía, but, as you mentioned, the Santa Trinidad is an XVIIIth century vessel, so perhaps it was built larger to accommodate horses, cannons, troops, etc?
The galleon Andalucia has a crew of only 40, but it does have modern fittings (fibre optics etc.), thereby also reducing the weight.
I, too, am not an expert on sailing ships. Nao, carabela, carraca o galeón for me are words with a romantic history.
Here is a map to plot it's course:
http://guadalquivirriodehistoria.es/mapa-de-la-travesia
I see that you have edited the (large!) photos of the Santa Trinidad. It does appear to be larger than the Galeón Andalucía, but, as you mentioned, the Santa Trinidad is an XVIIIth century vessel, so perhaps it was built larger to accommodate horses, cannons, troops, etc?
The galleon Andalucia has a crew of only 40, but it does have modern fittings (fibre optics etc.), thereby also reducing the weight.
I, too, am not an expert on sailing ships. Nao, carabela, carraca o galeón for me are words with a romantic history.
Here is a map to plot it's course:
http://guadalquivirriodehistoria.es/mapa-de-la-travesia
One similarity between them was their great size and tonnage
#37
Re: El galeón "Andalucía"
In an age of speed, jet travel, and, now, with some uncertainty caused by the recent volcanic ash, I feel inspired to read the logbook of the Galeón Andalucía. It gives an insight of this different form of travel.
However, I do keep in mind that modern technology has allowed this "speedy" glance into the lives of the crew.
Suez Canal . Soon to enter the Red Sea:
http://www.guadalquivirriodehistoria...-abril-de-2010
Should you wish, click on the Google toolbar for the Translate option: it is worth it!
However, I do keep in mind that modern technology has allowed this "speedy" glance into the lives of the crew.
Suez Canal . Soon to enter the Red Sea:
http://www.guadalquivirriodehistoria...-abril-de-2010
Should you wish, click on the Google toolbar for the Translate option: it is worth it!
#39
Re: El galeón "Andalucía"
Próximo destino Shanghai
http://www.huelvainformacion.es/galeon
http://www.guadalquivirriodehistoria...rio-de-a-bordo
http://www.huelvainformacion.es/galeon
http://www.guadalquivirriodehistoria...rio-de-a-bordo
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Re: El galeón "Andalucía"
If you follow the link and are interested you will find some more info on Spanish Galleons.
http://www.kwintessential.co.uk/arti...-Galleons/3539
Jim
http://www.kwintessential.co.uk/arti...-Galleons/3539
Jim
#41
Re: El galeón "Andalucía"
Thanks for the link, Jim.
It's not all football...
"Mission Accomplished":
http://www.guadalquivirriodehistoria...rio-de-a-bordo
Arrival yesterday:
http://www.huelvainformacion.es/arti.../shanghai.html
It's not all football...
"Mission Accomplished":
http://www.guadalquivirriodehistoria...rio-de-a-bordo
Arrival yesterday:
http://www.huelvainformacion.es/arti.../shanghai.html
#42
Re: El galeón "Andalucía"
Not El Galeon but in a similar vain
http://www.phoenicia.org.uk/
http://live.adventuretracking.com/phoenicia
http://www.phoenicia.org.uk/
http://live.adventuretracking.com/phoenicia
#43
Re: El galeón "Andalucía"
Thanks for the information, Fred. I got a bit lost on the tracking map, however.
All this exploration/navigation reminds me a bit of the excited discussions we had as children around the dinner table, especially in the (many) years following the voyage of the Kon-Tiki. Wish I'd have paid more attention back then!
I'll keep an "eye on the horizon" for further news of the galeón.
C
All this exploration/navigation reminds me a bit of the excited discussions we had as children around the dinner table, especially in the (many) years following the voyage of the Kon-Tiki. Wish I'd have paid more attention back then!
I'll keep an "eye on the horizon" for further news of the galeón.
C
#44
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According to the track at 7.00 ( Not sure what time zone they are using ) this morning they were ½ mile off the Southern entrance to Gibraltar port.
Also unlike El Galeon the Phoenicia appears to be a 20 Oarspower ship
Also unlike El Galeon the Phoenicia appears to be a 20 Oarspower ship
#45
Re: El galeón "Andalucía"
The Return Voyage/ El Tornaviaje
Stopping off at Keelung, Taiwan to shelter from the typhoon Fanapi.
http://www.guadalquivirriodehistoria...osa-bienvenida
A link with a good "all-on-one-page" guide:
http://www.huelvainformacion.es/galeon
Stopping off at Keelung, Taiwan to shelter from the typhoon Fanapi.
http://www.guadalquivirriodehistoria...osa-bienvenida
A link with a good "all-on-one-page" guide:
http://www.huelvainformacion.es/galeon