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GrapeEater Dec 30th 2007 4:46 pm

Do you need Loads of Money in Spain !?!
 
OK, so us Expat' Brits are dead rich... coming over here and buying fancy expensive villas and seaside apartments, lazing 'round sipping G&Ts and scoffing Tapas. Luxury Eh !!!!

Well I just read on Costa Blanca New's Website that the average Spanish annual income per person is about 8,500€s. Could you manage on that ??? It sounds doable to me unless you have expensive hobbies!

Other facts on this website are that about 20% of Spaniards are on the poverty line; 21% have a second home and unemployed immigrants have increased by 30% last year!!

Bri and Katee Dec 30th 2007 5:00 pm

Re: Do you need Loads of Money in Spain !?!
 
8.500€----easily doubled or tripled with black money!! How many farmers do you see in beat up vans or clapped out tractors, then on a weekend the biggest poshest car you ever see?

genegenie Dec 30th 2007 5:20 pm

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Originally Posted by Bri and Katee (Post 5720051)
8.500€----easily doubled or tripled with black money!! How many farmers do you see in beat up vans or clapped out tractors, then on a weekend the biggest poshest car you ever see?

That sounds like the farmers where i live in the UK. ;)

twyntub Dec 30th 2007 6:12 pm

Re: Do you need Loads of Money in Spain !?!
 

Originally Posted by Bri and Katee (Post 5720051)
8.500€----easily doubled or tripled with black money!! How many farmers do you see in beat up vans or clapped out tractors, then on a weekend the biggest poshest car you ever see?

You are so right! We have a neighbour near us who drives a beaten up 400 year old looking 300E Mercedes during the week, and wears clothes that you'd think he was completely penniless.

He does have other cars in his 'collection', however, including an Aston Martin DB9 in British Racing Green! :eek:

Bri and Katee Dec 30th 2007 6:27 pm

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:rofl::rofl: And here was me thinking that it was only a phenomenon to be found in the Alguena area;)

sarahchirles Dec 30th 2007 6:57 pm

Re: Do you need Loads of Money in Spain !?!
 

Originally Posted by GrapeEater (Post 5720007)
OK, so us Expat' Brits are dead rich... coming over here and buying fancy expensive villas and seaside apartments, lazing 'round sipping G&Ts and scoffing Tapas. Luxury Eh !!!!

Well I just read on Costa Blanca New's Website that the average Spanish annual income per person is about 8,500€s. Could you manage on that ??? It sounds doable to me unless you have expensive hobbies!

Other facts on this website are that about 20% of Spaniards are on the poverty line; 21% have a second home and unemployed immigrants have increased by 30% last year!!

Yep you need some money! And unless you are lucky, no career aspirations!

Erm... Cleaners get approx 9 euro an hour, Office worker circa 5 euro!

I am not that proficient with a mop! :thumbdown:

sunnydee Dec 30th 2007 9:27 pm

Re: Do you need Loads of Money in Spain !?!
 

Originally Posted by GrapeEater (Post 5720007)
OK, so us Expat' Brits are dead rich... coming over here and buying fancy expensive villas and seaside apartments, lazing 'round sipping G&Ts and scoffing Tapas. Luxury Eh !!!!

Well I just read on Costa Blanca New's Website that the average Spanish annual income per person is about 8,500€s. Could you manage on that ??? It sounds doable to me unless you have expensive hobbies!

Other facts on this website are that about 20% of Spaniards are on the poverty line; 21% have a second home and unemployed immigrants have increased by 30% last year!!

I'm not sure I understand the 'per person' bit - and is that gross? I'm earning about €25,000 gross and thats sort off ok for a family of 4 but certainly no luxuries.

sarahchirles Dec 30th 2007 9:48 pm

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Originally Posted by sunnydee (Post 5720766)
I'm not sure I understand the 'per person' bit - and is that gross? I'm earning about €25,000 gross and thats sort off ok for a family of 4 but certainly no luxuries.

You must have a 'mega mop!' :rofl:

rugbymatt Dec 30th 2007 10:18 pm

Re: Do you need Loads of Money in Spain !?!
 

Originally Posted by genegenie (Post 5720118)
That sounds like the farmers where i live in the UK. ;)


Originally Posted by twyntub (Post 5720289)
You are so right! We have a neighbour near us who drives a beaten up 400 year old looking 300E Mercedes during the week, and wears clothes that you'd think he was completely penniless.

He does have other cars in his 'collection', however, including an Aston Martin DB9 in British Racing Green! :eek:


Originally Posted by Bri and Katee (Post 5720051)
8.500€----easily doubled or tripled with black money!! How many farmers do you see in beat up vans or clapped out tractors, then on a weekend the biggest poshest car you ever see?

Yeah, absolutely, I know loads of farmers who just rake it in......................I mean one guy I know has a 15 year old landy works 7 days a week and earns £10,000 a year before tax!!

Give me a break!

Most farmers have cars on the never never, and have overdrafts that would shock the richest of you.

sunnydee Dec 31st 2007 1:23 am

Re: Do you need Loads of Money in Spain !?!
 
Oh yes I certaintly need a good mop at times - especially for sick and wee - don't ask! :rofl:

pete_l Dec 31st 2007 10:04 am

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Originally Posted by GrapeEater (Post 5720007)
... that the average Spanish annual income per person is about 8,500€s. ... Other facts on this website are that about 20% of Spaniards are on the poverty line; 21% have a second home and unemployed immigrants have increased by 30% last year!!

Ahh, don't you just love statistics - used properly they can "prove" anything.
When these people say the average spanish hourly pay in 2004 is $17 (yes, dollars
- FIIK why, call it 12 Euros) and this lot say that the average
wage in Madrid is 69% higher than in Murcia, where does that leave you?

Plus people like this who say that "poverty" in the UK involves things like not
being able to save £10 per week, or not having a roast joint
once a week you have to wonder what they're really talking about.

Since it's the end of the year and therefore a natural time to take stock, how
about looking back over your bank and card statements for the year and
working out how much you actually spent in 2007, maybe the forum
organisers could put up a poll?

jdr Dec 31st 2007 10:11 am

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Originally Posted by pete_l (Post 5722549)
Ahh, don't you just love statistics - used properly they can "prove" anything.
When these people say the average spanish hourly pay in 2004 is $17 (yes, dollars
- FIIK why, call it 12 Euros) and this lot say that the average
wage in Madrid is 69% higher than in Murcia, where does that leave you?

Plus people like this who say that "poverty" in the UK involves things like not
being able to save £10 per week, or not having a roast joint
once a week you have to wonder what they're really talking about.

Since it's the end of the year and therefore a natural time to take stock, how
about looking back over your bank and card statements for the year and
working out how much you actually spent in 2007, maybe the forum
organisers could put up a poll?

You can start a thread and put a poll in yourself, from FAQ`s tab..... HERE

TheArmChairDetective Dec 31st 2007 1:55 pm

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Originally Posted by GrapeEater (Post 5720007)
unemployed immigrants have increased by 30% last year!!


Oh for the UK to have such low figures.

As for jdr suggesting we have another pole ! !

:D

EsuriJohn Dec 31st 2007 1:59 pm

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Originally Posted by TheArmChairDetective (Post 5722992)
Oh for the UK to have such low figures.

As for jdr suggesting we have another pole ! !

:D

jdr was careful to spell poll

lee8 Dec 31st 2007 2:48 pm

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Originally Posted by Bri and Katee (Post 5720051)
8.500€----easily doubled or tripled with black money!! How many farmers do you see in beat up vans or clapped out tractors, then on a weekend the biggest poshest car you ever see?


Spanish in there nature and culture always give an outward appearance of wealth.

It`s there liquid assets that set the well off from the show off`s.


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