Is anyone watching antena 3, the people being evicted from thier homes, some old people are living in the park in Jer de la Fta.

No B and B paid for by the state, kids or not, old or not.

The Bailiffs/police etc, go in with trucheons at the ready and just hit everyone who gets in the way.

Terrible........

They have just kicked out an old lady, a widow-on 600 euros a month pension.

It was all these kind of questions, attitudes, and issues - but the fact that we all have our individual 'take' on what the very word integrated means and therefore come at it in different ways - that prompted the thread!

No surprise there, then

btw, it might or might not be accurate in this instance, but is wiki now more highly regarded as believable than 'twas?

I agree, it is terrible. I commented that I had seen older people living on the streets, in the bus station, etc. in Cadiz after a visit there last November (I found it very upsetting to see - although not one millionth as upsetting as it is for the people involved), and some people on the forum responded that there are homeless people everywhere and they are probably addicts or alcoholics. Not these people, believe me I can tell the difference. I hope whoever is elected in November will recognise the plight of the long term unemployed and do something to help them. I cannot imagine why Zapatero chose to scrap the 426€ per month for people in this situation, it was little enough but at least it would enable them to eat.

There were 16,000 eviction orders in the second quarter of the year

http://www.diariosur.es/rc/20111007/...110071158.html

Improve your integration and spanish...take in a homeless person!

OMG, trust you to think of that.......

None of the Britsh immigrants in Spain I know who fail to register do it as some kind of protest against corruption or property scandals, or even out of apathy.

They do it because they have something to hide, usually because they are using fictitious addresses in the UK and returning on a regular basis for NHS medical and dental treatment which they are not entitled to. There are 2 British couples living within 100 metres of my house doing exactly that.

They think that by not obtaining residencia or being on the padron they are less likely to come to the attention of the British authorities.

Of course a lot of homeless are drug addicts and alkies, the sad thing about last nights programme was the they were respectable people,mainly older, who could not keep up rent/mortgage payments, and one couple went as guarantor for their daughter and are about to be evicted.

One oldlady was left in her flat,I think the fact that she could not wald, due to ulcerated swollen legs, was the main reason, not the fact that she was over 80.

They would have had to carry her down to the street, and then she would have been unable to walk away, and Idont think that even the police could then ignore her plight, so I think it was a face saving excersise to let her stay in her home.

All in all a Freakking tragedy........

This was shown just before the gypsy wedding programme, a16year old girl was getting married
(I have never seen so many dyed blondes in one place), and it followed the whole saga, to the meeting and courtship through to the spectacle of the "hanky" ceremony, with all the married women watching and cheering.........

There's some sad cases here, http://www.rtve.es/noticias/20110926...a/464297.shtml
They reckon 200 families a day will have their property repossessed, scary figures.

I am reading the article, but cant believe that the banks are allowed to charge the interest on the loan for the whole period, even ifthe loan is quite recent.

The guy who borrowed 360k and now owns 700k, in the UK they do not chases anyone for more than the original amount borrowd, a scandal,and they call the banks in the UK greedy, it makes them look like an ONG compared to these leeches.

The banks in the UK have found an easier way to extract money - from the government (ie the UK taxpayer). Another £80 billion of "easing" announced last week.

Not quite the same though is it?

listening to R4 today, on a phone in (Money Prog or Any Answers?) a caller said he had a large sum of money he decided to "loan" to the bank who gave him 0.5% interest. At the same time he wanted to borrow some money from the bank and that money would be surety. They offered him their "best rate" of 10% interest.

shysters or just looking to top up their pension funds ?

Nothing ever is. What's your point? That a repossesion is worse in Spain than in England or Scotland? You may well be right (currently) as housing benefit will pay the rent in the UK, but it looks like that is going to be eroded over time. Forking out a billion pounds on housing benefit every fortnight (well 16 days) is unsustainable in the long run, especially as the North Sea oil runs out..
As it happens, one of the results of this quantitative easing (and propping up the banks - £45 billion to RBS alone ) has been the fall in the value of the pound. Every man and woman with pound sterling has seen the value of their currency fall - as many on this forum who spend in Euros will be aware. Perhaps it's been a price worth paying? But the victims include Brits losing their properties in Spain. Plus of course spending cuts hitting health and teaching. Can't say I'm impressed.

None of the people I know who haven't bothered to register have failed to do so for the reasons you mentioned, they simply don't see the point in it, especially the ones with private medical insurance.

The Spanish authorities, especially the various police forces, don't see the point in it either - they want to see your passport if you have to identify yourself, they are not interested in the registration form or the padron.

That's all any of us need as expats, our passports. It gets more complicated if we knock on the doors of Spanish bureaucracy because we think differently; they will have a few nice surprises for us - a friend of mine enquired about those signs to stop people parking outside your house after he got a letter from the council - he's got one now, and he lives in a finca half-a-mile up a private dirt track.

I was a young widower and recently married a young widow, making our vows in the most romantic (and convenient) way we could think of, in the Little White Chapel in Las Vegas, with Elvis giving the bride away.

Afterwards, we got all our papers together and visited a competent Spanish lawyer to make it all legal here in Spain. His advice, verified by the next lawyer we visited, was that it was impossible to comply with the Spanish bureaucracy concerned. He told us not to bother even trying.

I think the majority of people in the UK don't give a toss about the pound/euro exchange rate. The pound is up anyway at 1.16. However bad the UK is it's citizens are not affected to such an extent as those on the spanish news. There was a woman last month on a spanish forum, she fell into mortgage arrears of only a few months but the charges added 30,000 euro to the sum.

Read that Spain was downgraded 2 points yesterday.