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JLFS Dec 12th 2011 1:16 am

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Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 9783736)
They have been doing it for thousands of years, living in dire poverty and many of them starving. Read a bit about life in the spanish campo until about 30 yrs ago. How would the kids "marry well", do you mean "well" as in someone whose family has 12 cows instead of your ten:rofl:

I can see that and so can you, are we bonkers?:rofl:

JLFS Dec 12th 2011 1:19 am

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Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 9783749)
Well I'd be a little more ambitious than that :rofl:

There is an inbetween state, based on sustainability and knowledge. Or at least I hope there is!

Man with 10 acres, wants to meet woman with tractor.:rofl:

JLFS Dec 12th 2011 1:41 am

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Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 9783656)
My advice is to buy a plot of land in Spain, preferrably one whether the weather isnt so harsh and that has fertile land

Make sure the building is well insulated. Then stock it out with mod-cons

Then aim to live the way your grandparents did. You will have a big advantage because you will have washing machines, electricity, running water etc. You can do all this for about 100K. Then you'll have a head start for when the people start heading back to the villages which I can see in the next 10 years

Spain has a huge natural resource that it has ignored through the boom years. Thousands of wonderful villages surrounded by fertile land. Use the wealth people have built up to move out the cities and back there. The quality of life will be way better than being paid misrable wages in an ugly neighbourhood of the city - and eventually you and your children will be happier

I'm seriously thinking about it, as long as I can take my internet ;)

Why dont you do it then?

You have a flat in London that you can sell, buy the land, get your new gadgets, look for livestock and plant the spuds and other staples that you can eat, a cow for milk, and start a breeding programme for future labourers.

And Bobs your uncle, do it for your kids, you believe it is the future, give yourself a head start over those who will be forced into it, as you say.

Dick Dasterdly Dec 12th 2011 1:46 am

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Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 9783758)
Man with 10 acres, wants to meet woman with tractor.:rofl:

Please send photo of tractor.




A John Deere would definitely be worth a few brownie points. :thumbsup:

cricketman Dec 12th 2011 1:48 am

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Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 9783802)
Why dont you do it then?

You have a flat in London that you can sell, buy the land, get your new gadgets, look for livestock and plant the spuds and other staples that you can eat, a cow for milk, and start a breeding programme for future labourers.

And Bobs your uncle, do it for your kids, you believe it is the future, give yourself a head start over those who will be forced into it, as you say.

Yes I am seriously thinking about it. The thing is I'm greedy. I see something suitable and talk myself into it, then I see a lovely Casona de Indianos that needs a bit of work with a load of land - and I think maybe I'll hold off for a few more years so I can get that one :rofl:

Then I can hire some staff who can sleep in the outbuildings and they can do all the work in return for food and lodgings ;)

whitelinen Dec 12th 2011 2:05 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 9783730)
I think you are way behind the times.
The Chinese have been getting into the quality hi-tec market for quite a while now.

For instance the have bought out and taken over the highly rated Swedish Motor Industry.
They now own both Saab and Volvo and have already begun the process of switching production to China.

I would never under estimate them and IMHO it's simply a matter of time before they take over the West, lock stock and barrel.

I shall not sell my soul to nor become a slave to the Chinese for electrical equipment or a car. I never buy anything that is labeled made in China, although I have no doubt there is stuff in my house that has been made there and re-labeled after it has landed in Europe.

With your model I expect that they will have to eat us Westerners because as we will not have any money what other use will there be for us?

cricketman Dec 12th 2011 2:11 am

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Originally Posted by whitelinen (Post 9783850)
I never buy anything that is labeled made in China, although I have no doubt there is stuff in my house that has been made there and re-labeled after it has landed in Europe.
?

My word there is xenophobia for you :rofl:

However, I bet at least 80% of the stuff in your house was actually made in China

What countries do you not mind buying from? Is Japan OK but Indonesia out for example?

I do have a general rule that I wont buy clothes from China because they fall apart. Although I do make exceptions because sometimes I cant justify the price difference

whitelinen Dec 12th 2011 3:21 am

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Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 9783860)
However, I bet at least 80% of the stuff in your house was actually made in China

Wrong as usual...........:rolleyes:

Maybe in yours but not in mine.

I cannot think of a single thing that I own that has been made in China.

cricketman Dec 12th 2011 3:24 am

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Originally Posted by whitelinen (Post 9783986)
Wrong as usual...........:rolleyes:

Maybe in yours but not in mine.

I cannot think of a single thing that I own that has been made in China.

Ever been to Ikea? They make most their stuff in China nowadays
Anything made by Apple. All from China
Where do you buy your clothes? All highstreet shops and supermarkets make their clothes in China

Obviously I'll never be able to prove it, but I would bet a lot of money that you have a lot of things made in China

johnnyone Dec 12th 2011 3:59 am

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Originally Posted by whitelinen (Post 9783986)
Wrong as usual...........:rolleyes:

Maybe in yours but not in mine.

I cannot think of a single thing that I own that has been made in China.

I like to think that but when you look it's surprising how much stuff is made in China.
Mobile 'phone, Computer and or batteries, TV,DVD player etc.
And that's without clothes, trainers. Designed in the Uk manufactured in China.
Not trainers in my case as I don't wear them!

fionamw Dec 12th 2011 4:17 am

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Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 9783758)
Man with 10 acres, wants to meet woman with tractor.:rofl:


Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 9783813)
Please send photo of tractor.

A John Deere would definitely be worth a few brownie points. :thumbsup:


OH & son might have something to say about it, but for 10 acres OF FLAT LAND I'd consider finding myself a tractor....:lol:



Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 9783993)
Ever been to Ikea? They make most their stuff in China nowadays
Anything made by Apple. All from China
Where do you buy your clothes? All highstreet shops and supermarkets make their clothes in China

Obviously I'll never be able to prove it, but I would bet a lot of money that you have a lot of things made in China

Possibly regrettable, but regrettably very likely true:nod:

fionamw Dec 12th 2011 5:05 am

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Just a hypothetical, chaps, but who here knows the provenance of every item in their possession/in their house,home,car etc? I for one don't. I'm betting that though I know a lot are of Chinese production, and some I know are from other source producers: Argentina, Spain, UK (admittedly not many:() however there are probably loads I would have barely glanced at when making the purchase. Value for money, price per kg, contents, style, suitability, size, etc, yes. But made where? Not guaranteed every single time. Or am I alone in this?

Dick Dasterdly Dec 12th 2011 5:05 am

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Originally Posted by whitelinen (Post 9783850)
I shall not sell my soul to nor become a slave to the Chinese for electrical equipment or a car.

That could be the least of your worries.

Come the day you could find yourself to be the equivalent of a sweat shop slave or a paddy field worker desperate for a bowl of rice. :eek:

JLFS Dec 12th 2011 5:22 am

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If Cmans predictions come true,that we all live like rural Spanish from a generation or two ago, then men will have to change their mindset when looking for a suitable partner/wife.

I am sure a strong right arm for churning the butter will be a sought after asset.:rofl:

JLFS Dec 12th 2011 5:28 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 9783813)
Please send photo of tractor.




A John Deere would definitely be worth a few brownie points. :thumbsup:

:rofl::thumbup::thumbup:


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