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Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
Originally Posted by MEL & JOHN
(Post 6802780)
Hello All
Had a "fume" at the list of people who still owe community fees (one owes almost €1800 ) and I have seen people at the houses using the garden , pool, toilets etc and feel so angry that we work hard and are subsidising them. One family used the pool for 3 days and we learnt that they had been given the garden gate key from a man who looked after the house ( one that has never paid any fees) and told to make use of the facilities as and when they like. They have a house in Ayamonte that does not have a pool. I had a chat with him and told him that as they did not pay (the family in the pool) and neither had the owner of the house he was using as access that he should not use Lomas de Esuri M2 facilities, Cheeky ****** said he would continue to use them and would tell residents that I had said it was ok. WHAT !!!! Just to let fellow residents know that I DID NOT ! I did have a word with ADA about this. Well having had my rant I do appreciate that this type of thing will always be a problem in a shared community and compared to the worries of other posters with M Fadesa it is pretty insignificant. Mel |
Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
Not paying the condominium fees is very common in Pedras d'el Rei and Rainha.
The only muscle the condominium seems to have is to refuse to arrange any lettings for those apts. |
Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
Originally Posted by anna58
(Post 6805371)
Not paying the condominium fees is very common in Pedras d'el Rei and Rainha.
The only muscle the condominium seems to have is to refuse to arrange any lettings for those apts. |
Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
Originally Posted by jdr
(Post 6805398)
As legal rep of the community the president has the power to get the money due by sale of the property if need be.
On Rago 1, ADA are saying they can't get hold of the owners details, so they simply have to wait until they come forward. If there is such a strict law on these fees being paid, then surely there should be a way of getting their details from someone? |
Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
Originally Posted by John and Lynn
(Post 6805660)
The trouble seems to be that Fedesa do not let anyone know who buys the property, they just tell you if it is sold or not. As many owners use the property for holidays or rental purposes, it is hard to track these owners down.
On Rago 1, ADA are saying they can't get hold of the owners details, so they simply have to wait until they come forward. If there is such a strict law on these fees being paid, then surely there should be a way of getting their details from someone? There should be a list of all the properties in the community listing all the ones sold and their owners details, if not how do they know who are the debtors ? I would assume the builders should be paying in for all the ones that are unsold at the moment. It must be an offence to withhold required information needed in the running of the community, especially if they are concealing their lack of payments. |
Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
Originally Posted by jdr
(Post 6805710)
It`s really up to the President to show their power, to tell ADA the committee wants a list of owners and if they can`t do it then call a meeting and get new administrators.
There should be a list of all the properties in the community listing all the ones sold and their owners details, if not how do they know who are the debtors ? I would assume the builders should be paying in for all the ones that are unsold at the moment. It must be an offence to withhold required information needed in the running of the community, especially if they are concealing their lack of payments. |
Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
Originally Posted by John and Lynn
(Post 6805830)
ADA say it is to do with the Data Protection act, Fedesa can give apartment numbers and the owners name, but not their permanent place of residence or other contact details.
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Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
Originally Posted by jdr
(Post 6805890)
The president is in charge, ADA work for him, if they know then he should also know as it is part of his knowledge needed to run the community.
The community law is strong but the officers of the community need to know who and where owners are if they are to challenge them to pay their dues. I know they can "reposes" a property even if it is only €10 in default and I am sure this being Spain they could then sell it to defray dues and expenses. The courts would force the Tax/Land register/Cadastral to reveal all known information on ownership to enable this to happen but it all seems very long winded and bureaucratic. |
Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
Originally Posted by betris
(Post 6801610)
yes I said I had a big problem and it was getting bigger by the week.ok here it is.being married to a younger women,I thought I would try some viagra.so I went to the chemists and got a big big bottle.it said on the label.take a mil capsul.(in spanish)I dont realy speak spanish so I took it as un mil.thats one thousand in english.so I did.then my you know went big and then went bigger by the week now I find myself walking around with a wheel barrow:rofl:
I dont mind having a bit of banter and micky taking.both ways.(verbaly)but I think I would be a lousy person to continue given all the problems at the moment on CE.and hopefully they will be sorted out soon. I live nearby and yes Im a resident.Ive been fulltime here in this area for a very long time.but as the finacial situation is bad for a lot of us at the moment.I may have to go back to the UK and work for a while Hope you can find a satisfactory resolution to your problems.. Cheers Jon |
Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
Originally Posted by Jon-Bxl
(Post 6806088)
You wont afford to get back to the UK with the excess baggage charge involved at the moment!
Hope you can find a satisfactory resolution to your problems.. Cheers Jon |
Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
Originally Posted by jdr
(Post 6805890)
The president is in charge, ADA work for him, if they know then he should also know as it is part of his knowledge needed to run the community.
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Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
Whilst well meaning there is some very misguided advice on the basics that are being posted here that needs to be corrected as if others took it could cost them between 100's of Euros and in excess of 100,000 Euros within the next 9 days.
As I am neither qualified to offer advice in Spain, potential COI's could come back to haunt me and my Spanish amounts to being able to order "One Wine One Beer" make whatever you want from the following: 1. If you are thinking of buying on CE DON'T. Major Investment Banks were selling off MF stock at a discount of just less than 50% well before MF filed for Creditor Protection. Given the "BOMBS", the landbank value collapse, the failure of MF to now file on time due to problems confirming the past balance sheet valuations and that plots are now available for 160K EX IVA and yet are still not selling it is a no brainier that if CE is your Dream you will get your Dream for far less if you wait a while. 2. If you have contracted but not completed and MF are not in material breach complete unless you think to won't be able to finance the deal for a least 2 years in which case seek urgent legal advice from cross border firms that have legal and accounting specialists available . 3. If you have contracted but not completed/executed and consider MF to be in material breach instruct a QUALITY Spanish Lawyer specialising in RE or Bankruptcy to advise you and urgently file a claim. 4. If "somehow", a phrase the Spanish well understand, you have completed and paid but the Deeds are not in your name instruct one of the top ten firms in Spain first thing in the morning as you stand to lose it all if your claim is not in on time. 5. If you have completed and are awaiting minor issues to be addressed that amount to around less than say 3K put in a claim but don't instruct a Lawyer at this stage as at best it looks like you will never get more than around 54% of the amount of your claim. All you have to do at this stage is send the Administrators a letter that gets to them on time making a claim and sending any supporting documentation you have. The amount claimed can be estimated, ( I would suggest in Spanish and by Courier or RM signed for). 6. If you have found major issues instruct a QUALITY Spanish Lawyer specialising in RE or Bankruptcy to advise you and urgently so a claim can be filed in time. 7. Ignore the advice that you can claim only if you have a contract, judgement's or AO. This is Total NONSENSE. It may not matter much if the calm is for a few K but say if the CEO of a Hedge Fund had fell over a paving slab back in April on CE and died? Claim and do it now. DIY if small. My claim is on track to recompense me for the pain, medical costs, loss of earnings, profit, extreme trauma and irreparable psychological damage caused by the blatant and criminal negligence of MF back in April when I was injured because they left a major hazard unmarked. Must get off as I am advised my claim should be redrafted and increased by 20 to 30 times using the math of derivatives. Make sure your claim is in! Loco PM me if you want a copy of the Laws involved. |
Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
Originally Posted by Loco
(Post 6806863)
Whilst well meaning there is some very misguided advice on the basics that are being posted here that needs to be corrected as if others took it could cost them between 100's of Euros and in excess of 100,000 Euros within the next 9 days.
As I am neither qualified to offer advice in Spain, potential COI's could come back to haunt me and my Spanish amounts to being able to order "One Wine One Beer" make whatever you want from the following: 1. If you are thinking of buying on CE DON'T. Major Investment Banks were selling off MF stock at a discount of just less than 50% well before MF filed for Creditor Protection. Given the "BOMBS", the landbank value collapse, the failure of MF to now file on time due to problems confirming the past balance sheet valuations and that plots are now available for 160K EX IVA and yet are still not selling it is a no brainier that if CE is your Dream you will get your Dream for far less if you wait a while. 2. If you have contracted but not completed and MF are not in material breach complete unless you think to won't be able to finance the deal for a least 2 years in which case seek urgent legal advice from cross border firms that have legal and accounting specialists available . 3. If you have contracted but not completed/executed and consider MF to be in material breach instruct a QUALITY Spanish Lawyer specialising in RE or Bankruptcy to advise you and urgently file a claim. 4. If "somehow", a phrase the Spanish well understand, you have completed and paid but the Deeds are not in your name instruct one of the top ten firms in Spain first thing in the morning as you stand to lose it all if your claim is not in on time. 5. If you have completed and are awaiting minor issues to be addressed that amount to around less than say 3K put in a claim but don't instruct a Lawyer at this stage as at best it looks like you will never get more than around 54% of the amount of your claim. All you have to do at this stage is send the Administrators a letter that gets to them on time making a claim and sending any supporting documentation you have. The amount claimed can be estimated, ( I would suggest in Spanish and by Courier or RM signed for). 6. If you have found major issues instruct a QUALITY Spanish Lawyer specialising in RE or Bankruptcy to advise you and urgently so a claim can be filed in time. 7. Ignore the advice that you can claim only if you have a contract, judgement's or AO. This is Total NONSENSE. It may not matter much if the calm is for a few K but say if the CEO of a Hedge Fund had fell over a paving slab back in April on CE and died? Claim and do it now. DIY if small. My claim is on track to recompense me for the pain, medical costs, loss of earnings, profit, extreme trauma and irreparable psychological damage caused by the blatant and criminal negligence of MF back in April when I was injured because they left a major hazard unmarked. Must get off as I am advised my claim should be redrafted and increased by 20 to 30 times using the math of derivatives. Make sure your claim is in! Loco PM me if you want a copy of the Laws involved. |
Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
Originally Posted by betris
(Post 6807433)
loco are you scouser.that sounds like the normal claim from liverpool city council.I had a claim like this when I triped over a full packet of cigs in liverpool just after the pavement had been cleand by the street cleaner.he did not move the full packet of cigs as he was cleaning.a spokesman from the council said it was a health and safty issue.the street cleener had no training in the removal of full packets of ciggs from the pavement only empty ones.
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Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
Originally Posted by John and Lynn
(Post 6805660)
The trouble seems to be that Fedesa do not let anyone know who buys the property, they just tell you if it is sold or not. As many owners use the property for holidays or rental purposes, it is hard to track these owners down.
On Rago 1, ADA are saying they can't get hold of the owners details, so they simply have to wait until they come forward. If there is such a strict law on these fees being paid, then surely there should be a way of getting their details from someone? |
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