Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
 

There is no way I would complete without services such as electric. The old saying "this is Spain" is rubbish, just doesn't apply now. Things are different. Some Townhouses near me completed and were on builders electric. The builder pulled out and they were up the swanee! In High peak periods such as August the system may not be adequate and have frequent cuts too. I think many of these Lawyers ought to be reported for allowing people to complete, surely the properties don't have the final occupation licence if they don't have electric:confused:

Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
 

Thanks for the info, and sorry you had such a bad time because of good old Fedesa. I guess we should get onto Grace and see what she can do about ours then. If they have connected yours then they can connect ours. We are going out in June with my mother and she is going to struggle with the stairs even though we are only on the 1st floor.

Cheers, John

Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
 

I am building a villa on Esuri and I have studied the position with regard to "Licence of First Occupation" and "Certificate of Habitation". They are one and the same thing given different names by different Local Authorities.

The upshot is that you need to have the CE or LFO at the completion of the build BUT they are issued first before you are entitled to be connected to the electrikery. You the owner have to produce the LFO to get the utilities connected to your property.

The situation at Esuri is odd all the mains infrastructure was completed some time ago by Fadesa the elctricity cables, gas pipes, water mains and telephone are buried in the footpath outside each property. Gas Water and Telephone (with a bit of badgering) can be connected on request but there is no electrikery in the cable. As far as I can work this out it started as a dispute between Fadesa and Endesa as to who should pay for the Licence to cross the Marisma resulting in just sufficient cables being pulled through 2 out of 8 ducts to power up the first couple of phases to complete.

The dispute dragged on until just before christmas when Fadesa needing income from completions payed the fees for all the cables to be pulled through and connected.

Then a new problem arose, the demand for power is now so large that the gas board say that they will have to shut their mains down for safety as the final connection is made to power up 66kw. They cannot agree a date for this to happen so we all wait.

Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
 

Hi Betris:)

Spain is different, but important things should work here like in another part
of the (first) world. The problem I think, is that everybody just says that Spain is different and nobody takes action to change things.

Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
 

The villas are a diferent kettle of fish.on the rest you have had the option whether to complete of not.no one forced you.that why fedesa gave 1500 euro or a 42ins flat screen or white goods free as a insentive to complete.plus you have free electric until it gets conected.but why would you expect a country to change things just because you are here.isnt this the same reason most left england because they changed things to suit people comming to england to live.so things will be sorted in the end.but god knows when so in the mean time.relax if poss.enjoy the sun and get drunk.you could always buy a camping gaz stove.and a honda sil

Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
 

continuation from above ------------- honda silent geni and save it in case the rainy day ever comes

Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
 

When they done a survey in liverpool 70% of scousers said they realy enjoyed sex in the shower.the other 30% said they hadnt been to prison yet.

Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
 

I agree, its just too easy to come out with the stock line of 'Spain is different' - it is a modern developed western country in the EU. Like any country it has its own 'ways'. Anyone that had spent any time on the forum would have realised that completion was not necessary until the electricity supply was ready. I certainly insisted on that and my lawyer delivered on that too - they never once asked me to complete beforehand either ( I used the lawyer referred to above in the joke). I posted several times about not completing till all was ready, and there were e.g several lists posted of all the documents required etc before signing on the dotted line. There was no lack of info on this.

Like I said on one post, many people understandably took the risk/opportunity to complete with builders electricity. I think they decided that having their home usable was better than hanging on for ages.. also the electricity was/is free. I think it was a good decision for those - as they knew the risk in advance and decided that it wasnt significant enough to stop them enjoying their new home. Frankly I dont think there is any doubt that the electricity will be there... one day. Till then its still free and yes the lifts wont work for a while. Also it's not such a big risk, especially now that Fadesa have had their financial issues covered.

I took the course to 'wait till everything was ready' as I had no faith in Fadesa. My view was once they had my money I'd have no leverage.

I hated my experiences with Fadesa, right until completion where they really acted amazingly badly. To be fair, after sales has been good for us (so far) however.

I wouldnt buy again from them, but in the end - after a l-o-n-g hassle, we were delighted with our purchase... even though it was over 2 years late.

We're going to have a lot of fun there and in the surrounding areas and we have the choice of a bit of touristy Spain, touristy Portugal, (Neither of which is anywhere near the excesses Ive seen in other parts of these countries) or within a short drive more 'original Spain - with their 'ways' - or 'original Portugal' with theirs too!!

Even if it means paying for our electricity :)

Regards
Jon

Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
 

Hola betris,
Do you need to show a second set of spectacles in the glove compartment, too?

Perhaps this is where Hans C. A. thought of his story for the Princess and the Pea?:D

Info from 2003:

Iglesia Evangélica Bautista
Pastillo, 8
21006 - Huelva

Iglesia Evangélica "Asambleas de Dios"
C/ Plácido Buñuelos s/n
21007-Huelva

Could someone post some photos pease?

Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
 

:rofl:betris, you write in a similar style to Jules (Angie & Jules):D
Just fishing again...


:rofl: This reminds me of an Almodovar film where the police raid a home with a fake marijuana plant on the balcony!

Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
 

Does anyone have the e-mail address for Grace in after sales??

Thanks in advance...
John

Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
 

No, but I've got Vanessa's - [email protected] - she's in the same office.

Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
 

Thanks Yvonne,

I'd rather send one to Grace as she seems to act a little more promptly than some others. Maybe somebody knows Grace's second name, then I could work out the rest of the e-mail address?

Cheers
John

Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
 

yes you do if they are prescripition specs.and you cant drive in flip flops or bear feet.you cant cross either white line unless its dotted and you cant turn againt a white line.you cant hold your seat belt..the list is endless and I wont go into the new laws as from jan 2008 reguarding british licences or you will proberly throw your self off the bridge

Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
 

Sorry but keep fishing.I will tell you when you are getting near.