Clear bags for flight security.
Jul 13th 2011, 9:09 am
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Jul 13th 2011, 10:23 am
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Re: Clear bags for flight security.
I've gona back and forth Gatwick - Malaga many times and I've never used a clear bag and I carry all manner of junk with me, including several lighters, tweezers, moisturiser, make up, contact lens solution... I just leave it all in my bag and thats that
The way I see it is that my bag goes thru their xray machine so they can see whats in it without me going thru the trouble of unloading it, faffing around with a silly plastic thing and then reloading it...!!!
The only time I've ever had a problem was when I accidentally carried a two litre bottle of coke light thru (I knew my bag was heavy LOL) and even then the security guy just told me off and then gave it back to me!
The one thing I will say tho is that they are far more laid back at Malaga than Gatwick with having to take belts, shoes, earrings, bangles off
Jo xxx
The way I see it is that my bag goes thru their xray machine so they can see whats in it without me going thru the trouble of unloading it, faffing around with a silly plastic thing and then reloading it...!!!
The only time I've ever had a problem was when I accidentally carried a two litre bottle of coke light thru (I knew my bag was heavy LOL) and even then the security guy just told me off and then gave it back to me!
The one thing I will say tho is that they are far more laid back at Malaga than Gatwick with having to take belts, shoes, earrings, bangles off
Jo xxx
Well it's typically Spanish, there's no difinitive answer as it's that make it up as you go along thing and there's me worrying about the size and type
Jul 13th 2011, 11:25 am
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Re: Clear bags for flight security.
I know its all been changed at gatwick and now you have to go thru "train station" security type gates, using your boarding card bar code - of course it didnt work so there was a major queue as everyone was waiting for the one little man who was running up and down trying to get everyone thu and then you still have the big hold up while you get undressed to go thru the arch - mind you, thats coming back to Malaga.
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Jul 13th 2011, 11:40 am
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Re: Clear bags for flight security.
I know we are idiots to want to enter the poorly run airport and certifiable to want to travel on many of the airlines that play out of that airport but we are still entitled to be treated with courtesy at all times - despite what some think we haven't given up our human rights by entering their domain
so with those sort of "security" people I have a simple remedy
"Get me your manager - NOW!"
in a loud voice means all his\her colleagues turn to look as well
and refuse to move any of my gear out of the way of other travellers until it is resolved.
Take no prisoners
"Don't tell him your name Pike!" comes to mind
so with those sort of "security" people I have a simple remedy
"Get me your manager - NOW!"
in a loud voice means all his\her colleagues turn to look as well
and refuse to move any of my gear out of the way of other travellers until it is resolved.
Take no prisoners
"Don't tell him your name Pike!" comes to mind
Jul 13th 2011, 11:41 am
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Re: Clear bags for flight security.
I know we are idiots to want to enter the poorly run airport and certifiable to want to travel on many of the airlines that play out of that airport but we are still entitled to be treated with courtesy at all times - despite what some think we haven't given up our human rights by entering their domain
so with those sort of "security" people I have a simple remedy
"Get me your manager - NOW!"
in a loud voice means all his\her colleagues turn to look as well
and refuse to move any of my gear out of the way of other travellers until it is resolved.
Take no prisoners
"Don't tell him your name Pike!" comes to mind
so with those sort of "security" people I have a simple remedy
"Get me your manager - NOW!"
in a loud voice means all his\her colleagues turn to look as well
and refuse to move any of my gear out of the way of other travellers until it is resolved.
Take no prisoners
"Don't tell him your name Pike!" comes to mind
Why not just play by the rules?
Airports and flying are two of the worst experiences some of us have to suffer, many times throughout the year.
You get herded along like cattle, queuing for maybe an hour at a time, and then some idiot at the front decides they want to make a nuisance of themselves.
I agree, the rules are silly at times, but they are generally clear enough, even if they don't enforce some of them all of the time. Like Ryanair forcing passengers to stuff every little extra into the one cabin bag even though you just take it straight back out as soon as you get through the gate. Stupid, but it's so frustrating when you're held up by idiots thinking they can get away with it every time.
Just play by the rules and let the security staff have their misplaced feeling of superiority.
Jul 13th 2011, 11:49 am
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Re: Clear bags for flight security.
Why not just play by the rules?
Airports and flying are two of the worst experiences some of us have to suffer, many times throughout the year.
You get herded along like cattle, queuing for maybe an hour at a time, and then some idiot at the front decides they want to make a nuisance of themselves.
I agree, the rules are silly at times, but they are generally clear enough, even if they don't enforce some of them all of the time. Like Ryanair forcing passengers to stuff every little extra into the one cabin bag even though you just take it straight back out as soon as you get through the gate. Stupid, but it's so frustrating when you're held up by idiots thinking they can get away with it every time.
Just play by the rules and let the security staff have their misplaced feeling of superiority.
Airports and flying are two of the worst experiences some of us have to suffer, many times throughout the year.
You get herded along like cattle, queuing for maybe an hour at a time, and then some idiot at the front decides they want to make a nuisance of themselves.
I agree, the rules are silly at times, but they are generally clear enough, even if they don't enforce some of them all of the time. Like Ryanair forcing passengers to stuff every little extra into the one cabin bag even though you just take it straight back out as soon as you get through the gate. Stupid, but it's so frustrating when you're held up by idiots thinking they can get away with it every time.
Just play by the rules and let the security staff have their misplaced feeling of superiority.
I also had a slight prob with my carry on bag last trip. I knew it was the right size, in fact under, as I had measured it before the trip but the fact that I was then made to put not just my handbag in but also my book and my water etc made it bulge so first of all the cardboard wouldn´t go over it luckily it still fitted in the iron measure thingy as we were exiting to get on the plane but what if it didn´t - would they have delayed the plane whilst I went back through departures (if that were allowed) to pay to get the case on the plane?
Jul 13th 2011, 11:54 am
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Re: Clear bags for flight security.
There is playing by the rules - I always pack in the clear bag the right amount of items and never go over but I cannot stand people who are in positions where they can be helpful, not being so.
I also had a slight prob with my carry on bag last trip. I knew it was the right size, in fact under, as I had measured it before the trip but the fact that I was then made to put not just my handbag in but also my book and my water etc made it bulge so first of all the cardboard wouldn´t go over it luckily it still fitted in the iron measure thingy as we were exiting to get on the plane but what if it didn´t - would they have delayed the plane whilst I went back through departures (if that were allowed) to pay to get the case on the plane?
I also had a slight prob with my carry on bag last trip. I knew it was the right size, in fact under, as I had measured it before the trip but the fact that I was then made to put not just my handbag in but also my book and my water etc made it bulge so first of all the cardboard wouldn´t go over it luckily it still fitted in the iron measure thingy as we were exiting to get on the plane but what if it didn´t - would they have delayed the plane whilst I went back through departures (if that were allowed) to pay to get the case on the plane?
Jul 13th 2011, 11:58 am
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Re: Clear bags for flight security.
[QUOTE=billgates;9492910]I have noticed that some airports have a credit card payment machine at the departure gates so that you can pay to be allowed to take your oversize hand baggage on board. I heard that the cabin crew get a percentage of any extras like this.[/QU
Now that I can believe. So if you refused to pay at that stage what would they do..............I cannot believe they would delay the plane by not letting you fly as that would also mean off loading your luggage (if you had any) what would the cost of it be far more than was feasible I would suspect.
Now that I can believe. So if you refused to pay at that stage what would they do..............I cannot believe they would delay the plane by not letting you fly as that would also mean off loading your luggage (if you had any) what would the cost of it be far more than was feasible I would suspect.
Jul 13th 2011, 1:23 pm
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Re: Clear bags for flight security.
There is playing by the rules - I always pack in the clear bag the right amount of items and never go over but I cannot stand people who are in positions where they can be helpful, not being so.
I also had a slight prob with my carry on bag last trip. I knew it was the right size, in fact under, as I had measured it before the trip but the fact that I was then made to put not just my handbag in but also my book and my water etc made it bulge so first of all the cardboard wouldn´t go over it luckily it still fitted in the iron measure thingy as we were exiting to get on the plane but what if it didn´t - would they have delayed the plane whilst I went back through departures (if that were allowed) to pay to get the case on the plane?
I also had a slight prob with my carry on bag last trip. I knew it was the right size, in fact under, as I had measured it before the trip but the fact that I was then made to put not just my handbag in but also my book and my water etc made it bulge so first of all the cardboard wouldn´t go over it luckily it still fitted in the iron measure thingy as we were exiting to get on the plane but what if it didn´t - would they have delayed the plane whilst I went back through departures (if that were allowed) to pay to get the case on the plane?
Jul 13th 2011, 1:41 pm
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Re: Clear bags for flight security.
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I also had a slight prob with my carry on bag last trip. I knew it was the right size, in fact under, as I had measured it before the trip but the fact that I was then made to put not just my handbag in but also my book and my water etc made it bulge so first of all the cardboard wouldn´t go over it luckily it still fitted in the iron measure thingy as we were exiting to get on the plane but what if it didn´t - would they have delayed the plane whilst I went back through departures (if that were allowed) to pay to get the case on the plane?
I also had a slight prob with my carry on bag last trip. I knew it was the right size, in fact under, as I had measured it before the trip but the fact that I was then made to put not just my handbag in but also my book and my water etc made it bulge so first of all the cardboard wouldn´t go over it luckily it still fitted in the iron measure thingy as we were exiting to get on the plane but what if it didn´t - would they have delayed the plane whilst I went back through departures (if that were allowed) to pay to get the case on the plane?
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Jul 13th 2011, 2:00 pm
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Re: Clear bags for flight security.
We especially bought bags under the permitted size and they were far from full, yet in the measuring frame they were to big, whilst argueing with them and showing them the bag was not even full we found the original label still attached which clearly stated the dimensions. They then had no choice but to let it through but I was very aware of all the people behind us tutting and wanting to kill US. This beggers the question how accurate are these frames, has anyone measured them, especially Ryanair ones, you wouldn't put it past them to try and pull a fast one like that.
The other attendent didn't say a word and let all sorts of things thru.
Yes - it was Ryanair
Jul 13th 2011, 3:53 pm
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Re: Clear bags for flight security.
No you can´t with Ryanair you have to put the duty frees in your carry on luggage too this is when it starts to "bulge". Vueling says you can have a handbag and a carry on bag too. It is all so stupid as you then waste time and aisle room taking your handbag, water, book out of your luggage. After all you need your handbag out to pay for the extorionate food, drink etc. No good leaving it in the luggage. It is all just to get extra profits in fines.
Jul 13th 2011, 4:19 pm
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Re: Clear bags for flight security.
standing at the back of the queue to get thru boarding, 2 flight assistants, one was continually picking people up for having a bag + a plastic carrier for the bits and pieces bought airside, also insisted a woman put her shoulder bag into her baggage. Also actually shouted at one person who had a bag that looked too large - but neither put it into the frame thing.
The other attendent didn't say a word and let all sorts of things thru.
Yes - it was Ryanair
The other attendent didn't say a word and let all sorts of things thru.
Yes - it was Ryanair
Jul 13th 2011, 4:36 pm
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Re: Clear bags for flight security.
Just remembered the joke last month when returning from Gatwick to Malaga, at approach to gate some quite observant Ryanair staff member pulled my hand luggage for a weight check - sure enough, over by just under 2kg. She asked if I'd got any food in there, I said yes but I wanted to be able to eat it on the flight (blowed if I'm paying Ryanair prices, I thought...) She then proceeded to give me the ok to take it out, put in a separate bag then re-weigh the offending hand luggage which was then ok. Both then allowed through. 
(though stupidly I had a can of beer on the flight. £4.50)
(though stupidly I had a can of beer on the flight. £4.50
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Jul 13th 2011, 5:52 pm
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Re: Clear bags for flight security.
Why not just play by the rules?
Airports and flying are two of the worst experiences some of us have to suffer, many times throughout the year.
You get herded along like cattle, queuing for maybe an hour at a time, and then some idiot at the front decides they want to make a nuisance of themselves.
I agree, the rules are silly at times, but they are generally clear enough, even if they don't enforce some of them all of the time. Like Ryanair forcing passengers to stuff every little extra into the one cabin bag even though you just take it straight back out as soon as you get through the gate. Stupid, but it's so frustrating when you're held up by idiots thinking they can get away with it every time.
Just play by the rules and let the security staff have their misplaced feeling of superiority.
Airports and flying are two of the worst experiences some of us have to suffer, many times throughout the year.
You get herded along like cattle, queuing for maybe an hour at a time, and then some idiot at the front decides they want to make a nuisance of themselves.
I agree, the rules are silly at times, but they are generally clear enough, even if they don't enforce some of them all of the time. Like Ryanair forcing passengers to stuff every little extra into the one cabin bag even though you just take it straight back out as soon as you get through the gate. Stupid, but it's so frustrating when you're held up by idiots thinking they can get away with it every time.
Just play by the rules and let the security staff have their misplaced feeling of superiority.