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Old Aug 15th 2013, 8:14 pm
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Hi all,
After many years of thinking about moving to Spain my wife has decided that no time is going to be exactly right so has set a date of July 2014 to move over to Spain permanently.
I understand that that Spain has a lot of problems with unemployment, corruption and the Euro and maybe some would say that it is better to stay in the UK. However, I believe that the UK is finished and things here can only get a lot worse in the next few years.
My wife has done quite a bit of research on the move and believes that it can be done and that our quality of life can improve with the move.
We also have a daughter at 13 who is also keen to move and is currently getting Spanish lessons a few hours a week.
I on the other hand want to move but looking for some more convincing that it is the right thing for my family.
I am semi retired and have a reasonable pension and keen to develop my photographic skills and my wife is an Accredited Checking Technician in a chemist but would be prepared to do most types of work. We should be able to maintain a reasonable lifestyle but would be keen to find work sooner rather than later.
How is the employment prospects local to the area or within a reasonable travelling distance?
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Originally Posted by Gizmo_man60
Hi all,
How is the employment prospects local to the area or within a reasonable travelling distance?
I don't think they are that good, I met a guy not long ago who works in a chip shop there and he could do so much better, claims he is pushed hard for long hours, but is happy living there.

Prolly a few black market opportunities as it is a expat area, property maintenance etc,
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However, I believe that the UK is finished and things here can only get a lot worse in the next few years.
I've lost count of the number of times I've heard that from new arrivals in Spain going back at least 20 years.

Suffice to say that most of them were back in Blighty in a matter of months.

My take on it is that those who have little faith in their ability to make it in the UK, have even less likelyhood of succeeding in Spain.

Anyway welcome on board and I wish you the best of luck, but the right attitude of mind could be a big asset as well.
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I've lost count of the number of times I've heard that from new arrivals in Spain going back at least 20 years.

Suffice to say that most of them were back in Blighty in a matter of months.

My take on it is that those who have little faith in their ability to make it in the UK, have even less likelyhood of succeeding in Spain.

Anyway welcome on board and I wish you the best of luck, but the right attitude of mind could be a big asset as well.
I agree... grass is greener and all that.

Gizmo, you have a great opportunity. You both are leaving work anyway next year.. and you can survive on your pensions, if I understand you correctly. So why not come out for a school year for your daughter, rent and 'suck it an see' - without selling your home in the UK (or rent it for a year for additional income).

Take professional tax advice on how to manage your money, BEFORE, then come out and see how it works. Without relying on having a job to see you through.

Then after some months - if you want to stay and find work etc and LIKE IT there .... go for it. No need to burn any bridges ..

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I hesitate to say this, but bringing a 13-year old child to Spain can't be good for the child. It is too late in their education process, and will disrupt it severely. And you have to consider youth unemployment in Spain, it's over 60% and Spanish young people are leaving their country in droves to find employment elsewhere.
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Thanks for all your comments
Sorry if I gave the impression that we are both nearing retirement it is only me that is semi retired my wife has a good few years of work left in her
I would say that my wife has done a significant amount of research on moving abroad and she is confident that we as a family can build a new life in Spain. She is under no impression that it will be easy.
I also understand the concerns of taking a child of 13 but she is working hard to learn the language and more importantly she wants to move to Spain. Always a plus
Sometimes you just have to take the risk and leave your comfort zone.
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Originally Posted by Gizmo_man60
Thanks for all your comments
Sorry if I gave the impression that we are both nearing retirement it is only me that is semi retired my wife has a good few years of work left in her
I would say that my wife has done a significant amount of research on moving abroad and she is confident that we as a family can build a new life in Spain. She is under no impression that it will be easy.
I also understand the concerns of taking a child of 13 but she is working hard to learn the language and more importantly she wants to move to Spain. Always a plus
Sometimes you just have to take the risk and leave your comfort zone.
Do it, and good luck
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If you didn't have a 13-year old child I would say get on a plane tomorrow, a plane to paradise.

But you have and whichever way you look at it, you're going to harm the girl, you're going to mess up her life.

Paisley to Quesada is a stupid idea for a 13-year old Scottish girl, just think about and put your daughter first.
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But you have and whichever way you look at it, you're going to harm the girl, you're going to mess up her life.

Paisley to Quesada is a stupid idea for a 13-year old Scottish girl, just think about and put your daughter first.
I am not really asking for your permission to emigrate with my wife and daughter.
As you do NOT know anything about me or my family to make an assertion that I am going to harm my daughter and mess up her life by moving to Spain is the stupid assumption.
I would rather you take your comments elsewhere for I do not welcome them nor the implication you make.
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Originally Posted by Gizmo_man60
I am not really asking for your permission to emigrate with my wife and daughter.
As you do NOT know anything about me or my family to make an assertion that I am going to harm my daughter and mess up her life by moving to Spain is the stupid assumption.
I would rather you take your comments elsewhere for I do not welcome them nor the implication you make.
I don't know what to say to this as you both have valid points but I will say this, personally if my dad had took me out of the UK to Spain or France or Australia, anywhere really I think I would have loved it, I don't think it would have hurt me.
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I don't agree with your assertion that UK is finished. However, I do know Cuidad Quesada very well. FYI: There is a good international school in Quesada and Spanish school in Rojales.

I don't know what a checking technician does exactly? FYI: There are several very good Chemists (Farmacia) staffed with knowledgeable multi-lingual personnel. Unfortunately unless she is fluent in Spanish, I would suggest there is very little prospect of your wife gaining employment working in a chemist.

Please note: Qualifications gained in UK are not necessarily transferable to Spain.

Good luck with your move.

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I am not really asking for your permission to emigrate with my wife and daughter.
As you do NOT know anything about me or my family to make an assertion that I am going to harm my daughter and mess up her life by moving to Spain is the stupid assumption.
I would rather you take your comments elsewhere for I do not welcome them nor the implication you make.
I think 'stupid' was really the wrong thing to say. If you've done your research, and have a back up plan - then go for it. People move all the time, I know many families with teenage kids that have moved abroad, there is an initial phase, of hassle setting everything up... then a period of settling in and often a 'wall'. Get over that wall and many people have no regrets.

Having your daughter all for it and learning Spanish is already a huge hurdle overcome.

If it doesn't work, well you don't know till you've tried it! At least you have researched this fully beforehand....

Good luck!

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Originally Posted by Gizmo_man60
I am not really asking for your permission to emigrate with my wife and daughter.
As you do NOT know anything about me or my family to make an assertion that I am going to harm my daughter and mess up her life by moving to Spain is the stupid assumption.
I would rather you take your comments elsewhere for I do not welcome them nor the implication you make.
If you're truly opened minded and asking for advice then often the truth is unwelcome and unpalatable. PLEASE don't dismiss outright any advice you get. Read it and think about it. Take all advice.
Life WILL be tough for a 13 year old girl here. But if you've made up your mind, then may I politely suggest you just ask for replies that agree with you and encourage you and stipulate no negative replies will be accepted.
Still wish you good luck though!
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Emigrating is tough for everyone - 13 year old or 31 year old. We are all different and I would suggest OP is in the best position to decide what is best for his family.
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