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Hi There I am new to this site, but I have been reading some very interesting threads. Im reading about the electricity and other issues in the Chiclana area............JUST HOW BAD IS IT??. And is it the whole of the CDL area, as I am thinking of buying a house in this area.

TY
Concerned
:scared: :scared:

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Chiclana has far to many illegal properties and if I was you I would look elsewhere. It is very tempting I know that you can buy a lovely new detached house with its own plot for 210.000 euros or even less. What a bargain! However there is a reason for this ie. no electric contract (or any hope of ever getting one), no planning permission, illegal division of plot, built in the wrong zone etc etc. To make matters worse many estate agents have no qualms at all in off loading dodgy property on the unsuspecting purchaser.

In my opinion Chiclana does not lag too far behind Marbella when it comes to the matter of corruption.


I am sorry I cannot answer about how bad the rest of the CDL is but perhaps another member can.

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Okay the situation isn't good, but, that shouldn't put you off buying here Chalkie. Just go into it with your eyes wide open. Do not buy without an electric meter no matter what promises are made. Always use a lawyer who is not connected with an estate agent, preferably not working from Chiclana. As stated before this is a lovely place to live and I wouldn't want to live anywhere else in Spain. There are legal properties to be had so just BE CAREFUL.

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Thankyou for that bit of good advise, but could you tell which areas are in the yellow zone, as I have been told these are the ones to go for. Again TY.
;)

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Parts of Pago de Humo are yellow but you have to be careful as there are some that are white. do not touch these. You are best to download an urbanisation map from the official Chiclana website. Obviously you can buy in an urbanisation within townn including Los Gallos, but, you will pay a lot more. Just remember that old adage, "Buyer Beware". Someone I know bought in Pago way, way out by the Dogs and Cats Refuge. There are three houses on their own surrounded by countryside. No meters and obviously illegal, but, if you look at their position it speaks for itself.

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Ty for that Glynis, could I ask you have you got a link to the offical Chiclana web site.

Ian :) :) :)

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Try going into www.mycadiz.biz I think there is a link from there. Also if you are in Chiclana if you go to the Post Office, cross the road and walk down towards the Chinese there is an underground car park with a dress shop on one side and a estate agents on the other with a "tunnel" In there is a shop that sells various stationary etc and on the wall is a map of the urbanisation. You can get copies printed off.

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Sent you a private message. Happy New yearand Good Luck and yes take the advice and don't buy in Chiclana :) ..it's a great area and risks being spoiled by too many expats buying there!!!!!!!!

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What, ex-pats like you and like me? I've lived here a few years and wouldn't dare criticise others for doing the same. We can have ex-pats without Chiclana 'being spoiled'. :confused:

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I think poollounger was joking! But the area is so nice, the council are going to have to be very careful to keep it under control.. I hear Jerez is getting a new runway, and a hostess on Ryanair said they were looking to extend the number of flights there with a possibility of an East Midland to Jerez flight (which would be great from a selfish point of view!!)

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Actually NicCol I don't think poollounger was joking as I've read similar thoughts from her/him on other threads on this site. I live here full time and live in a very Spanish barrio, but I get really incensed when people criticise others for doing what they themselves have done.

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The fear is that once you have bought here it slowly turns to resemble other well known Costas , i know it is selfish to wish to keep the area as we know it , but i think foolhardy if we think it won't change for the worse over time, if you were given the power to limit the influx wouldn't secretly like to use it ?

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Okay point taken, but as long as those coming out there aren't the ones who think that if they shout louder then they will be understood, and those who don't understand English are stupid, and stand outside a English pub, called the lemon tree, queuing for their yorkshire pud, on a searing hot day in the middle of August, then it should be OK. Shouldn't it?

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Interesting about Jerez airport and Ryanair. I had heard rumours about Bristol to Jerez. All my friends and family are in the Westcountry so would welcome it with open arms.

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That I totally agree with.

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I don't know if this is much help. but Ryanair have announced a new route from Liverpool to Seville.

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What attracts those people are the English bars / resturants / shops , what have we seen in last year ?, exactly that with also big supermarkets introducing english sections and availability of english newspapers, how long before the first 'kiss me quick' hat stall ?!!

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Diario de Cadiz today , permission for 500 new homes next door to equestrian centre in Novo given .

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Development plans announced , apart from Novo homes , Sancti Petri marina ,now clearing of existing buildings is in full swing will be developed exact details to be announced,also on headland at Roche end of barrosa beach(mambo beach bar) old Guardia civil ruin to be developed , restaurant proposed , what they claim is permission for last hotel announced again at roche end of barrosa beach , and down town, area around bullring to be developed for commercial use aswell as new police station , wait for it , all to be completed by end of 2007 !!

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Sounded so plausible until you get to the completion date!

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hi there, i'm also new to this site,with the dreaded electric problem.i have had my place since oct 2003 with no meter :mad: i would welcome any news or advice as i do not live in chiclana. my biggest problem is i have a pool,so everytime it is disconnected i have to spend a small fortune getting it up an running.at this moment it is disconnected and i have 4 visits planned this year :(

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El Tel -
Whereabouts are you?

I think it is a shame about developing the old Guardia site as a restaurant. I love that part of Barossa and think it is quite atmospheric.

Interesting though about the bullring deveopment. Does it give any idea what kind of commercial development it could be?

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The development by the mambo bar is absolutely enormous! I gather it is going to have an artificial lake! How can an artificial lake compete with the view of the sea (particularly from that part of the coastline). It looks like it is probably going to be one of those 'exclusive all-in' developments - who needs more hotels, there are loads of them already.

I don't know where the Gaurdia ruin is, is that near the mambo?

There are developments popping up all along the coast, I was very sad last time we drove along the coast road from NSP to Conil as there were areas where the trees had all been chopped down and the beginnings of new developments could be seen. The 'protected forest' seems on very thin ice to me......

As for Sancti Petri, well, I guess something was always going to happen there, as half of it had already been pulled down, I just hope it doesn't turn into a small scale Puerto Banus or something tacky like that....like someone said early, the kiss me quick hat stands will be next....

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Just past the development you speak of is a road on your right, on the headland at the end of the road is the derelict building ex guardia civil , directly below that on the beach is paradise , The Mamabo Beach bar , keep it to yourself !!

As for the development next to the bullring , there will be a very large underground car park , retail outlets above , although this is last on the list of developments , most of Chiclana centre seems to be currently surrounded by scaffolding , not much chance of urbanisation being fitted in amongst it all ?!

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my place is in Caulina. camino de monte olivetti, just off the carretera las lagunas

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Take a look at www.mycadiz.biz for fuller information on the electricity situation in Chiclana and what, if anything, those experiencing problems have been able to do, or not - as in some cases.

A word of caution, which has been said on other posts on this website: be very careful about giving info. on the location of your property when you are not here permanently.

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Speaking of electricity , i'm sure you will be delighted to hear that Endesa announced record profits today of 3,182 million euros , 154% up on last year !

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Ryanair are currently seeking a second Spanish base airport , Girona near Barcelona is the first , Ryanair currently fly to 21 destinations from there across Europe . They have discussed Jerez as an option with Ryanair asking for a 4 euro per person subsidy ,but no decision yet, if it were Jerez the likely additions to UK flight destinations would be Luton , Bournemouth and East Midlands , flights from Stansted run at an overall occupancy of 80% at present .

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Having booked all my flights for this year on the East Midlands to Malaga route, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Ryanair started an East Midlands to Jerez. It's the way my luck seems to go!! :rolleyes:

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Hi Mourinho,

I thought subsidy was outlawed by the EU and that is why Ryanair had to give up its flights to Challoria (spelling) in France and pay fines. They now fly to somewhere in Germany 20km away instead but not subsidised.

Regards,

John.

PS a Ryanair Luton / Seville flight would suit us just right.

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Perhaps subsidy is the wrong word , the exact translation is 'aid' , its not a small amount either , last year 320 000 passengers flew Ryanair to Jerez meaning we are talking 1.2 million euros of 'aid' .

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Some further news relevant to urbanisation in parts of Chiclana , Endesa have announced that natural gas will be arriving in Chiclana by the end of 2007 , a new pipe network is to be put in place running from cadiz along side the A 48 , speaking of the A 48 the current easter deadline has now been extented , the construction between chiclana - Conil - Vejer is now hoped to be finished by the end of june , which year i'm not sure !

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It doesn't really matter though, as no-one will be allowed a contract for it :rolleyes:

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Excellent. Good sense of humour, I like it. I do know someone, friend of a friend, who has received a letter from Endesa stating that meters are going to be given out but the cost will be over 2,000 euros.

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Interesting how other people interpret one's posts..you have got me all wrong and Nicol was right it was tongue in cheek. My fear would be that the Spanish tourists might stop coming and then we would have the Irish Pub etc etc etc to exclusion of any where serving good Spanish food. I think it's great the harbour at old Sancti Petri and the disused canning factory are to be developed as long as we dont lose the little restaurant at the yacht club which serves delicious food by a blazing fire...I had my first taste of fried oysters there and they were so yummy I am afraid they were gobbled up in no time at all.

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Interesting how other people interpret one's posts..you have got me all wrong and Nicol was right it was tongue in cheek. My fear would be that the Spanish tourists might stop coming and then we would have the Irish Pub etc etc etc to the exclusion of any where serving good Spanish food. I think it's great the harbour at old Sancti Petri and the disused canning factory are to be developed as long as we dont lose the little restaurant at the yacht club which serves delicious food by a blazing fire...I had my first taste of fried oysters there and they were so yummy I am afraid they were gobbled up in no time at all.

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Isn't the 2000€ charge the one mentioned months ago that will come off your urbanisation fee?

Mind you they could have the shirt off my back at the moment...... and my right arm too come to think of it ;)

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The trouble is when the builder says he has already paid for the meter. Why should you pay again. Also how can you check that the builder has paid for the meters?

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When our application was made (Octoberish) Sevillana didn't want any money at this time so it's unlikely that he has paid. If he has though surely he will have a receipt.

Have you had a letter recently Glynis? As the recent applications are being acknowledged now, if your builder has applied on your behalf, you probably would have heard something.

If in doubt check directly with the electricity company.

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Maybe my maths is all wrong but looking at your 320,000 passengers flying from Stansted to Jerez in 2005 made me wonder.

Let me explain. If on average there are 180 pasengers on each plane (and many times there are much fewer) then let us say two flights every day = 360 passengers per day. Then multiply by 365 = 131,400