That's not what the Catalans are saying. Go and look in the forums and on social media

So what was your point?

Are you the one person who wants to rebuild the Berlin wall?

Germany is one of the countries with the highest income disparity between rich and poor. You may want to ask the Germans working a mini-job for 500 euros per month how much Germany has "moved forward"

Every country has its own problems, none are "more advanced" than the next

The point was your question

Your posts make no sense. My question was who, apart from you(?) wants to rebuild the Berlin wall?

I know everything about Germany, but creating more borders isn't the solution. The ones working in a mini job still have the option to move to the West/East, or upskill, so better than before.

You need to read, as I never mentioned people want to rebuild the Berlin wall.
It could be a wall in peoples heads
"It's funny that a few days ago Germany was celebrating 25 years since the wall fell, but elsewhere people would now rather have a wall."

That's funny, Germany doesn't even rate in the top 100 of the greatest gap between rich and poor.

But it does rate as the 11th most equal.

And by the way, those €500 mini-jobs put tax-free money into the pockets of many of those who'd otherwise be wards of the state. And frankly, with Germany's 5% unemployment, there really aren't all that many takers, although I'm sure you'd love to classify it as widespread "slave labour" to illustrate your point.

Gap Between Rich and Poor: World Income Inequality | Infoplease.com

One in five German workers are in mini-jobs earning less than the minimum wage

'Mini-jobs' don't work in Germany, and they won't work in Britain | Stephanie Blankenburg | Comment is free | The Guardian

It is easy to have 5% unemployment when you force people to work for a pittance

I shall rephrase my question, just to make it clear to you>

Who are you referring to with this banal comment "people would now rather have a wall"

Erm, mini-jobs aren't compulsory. It's a choice. No gun to the head.

A lot of those in mini-jobs (perhaps most) are people with other means of support that are looking to earn a little extra. The remaining are people who are without means, temporarily or otherwise, supported by benefits.

You can argue whether it's good or not, But it's a nice option to have. But it IS an option. Suggesting people are "forced" into it is simply false, just as is your claim that Germany has amongst the world's highest disparity between rich and poor.

I'll leave the 'wall' issue, apart from asking, again, 'What has this got to do with the topic?'

But, " but we can expect a few riots to come." How' When? Whom?

Have you seen a Catalan riot or commit any public disorder in relation to this issue?

Regs

Simon

I agree there. For some people mini jobs are just an additional income and others at least have the feeling they're doing something. Good or bad, who knows. I just mentioned Germany as an example moving forward and others wanting to build a wall (theoretically speaking) by moving away from each other.

Your comment makes no sense

For much of Catalunya independence would be a step forward, why would it be seen as backwards? Unless you wish for a world with no borders at all and no local representation in politics? Maybe you could have just one tyrant running the world?

Democracy works best in small areas. If Catalans feel that the Spanish government no longer represents their interests then the most democratic response would be to ask Catalans whether they want to form their own government and leave the Spanish government. That would be a giant step forwards democratically speaking

Hasn´t it come to light that during the recession, the Catalan region has taken more money from central government than any other region, in order to maintain it´s very costly infrastructure?