No, not really.

Gove was advocating something that directly affected this woman's rights and ability to do something she was planning in the future and he deliberately misled her and millions of others during a live TV debate.

Think it’s due to come online in 2020. Once online that will spell the end for illegal migration into Europe.

2020 ? or do you mean 2030 😂 … it won’t spell the end of anything. It may perhaps make illegal migration more difficult but it certainly won’t end it. Do you think the EU will be the first place to have an electronic entry/immigration system ? …. Take a look at any other country with an electronic system and tell me if it’s stopped illegal migration.

Doesn’t seem as though Spain are ending it anytime soon. Just changing the criteria.

It would appear that EES will finally go live on 6 October 2024.

It won't affect many people on here because EU nationals/residents are exempt.

Dont hold your breath 😁

The real difficulty appears to have been overcome :
Brexit pain could be eased for Brits with homes in France under new law

growinspain had better brief his lawyers, too. It's specifically UK citizens and not all non-EU citizens who will benefit from this concession.

I still wouldn't get too excited and I doubt this is the Brexit benefit you have been looking for.

The Times (paywall) has a more pessimistic view ie it could be overturned by the high court and could be watered down considerably.

If this is some kind of Brexit win, God help them!

I suppose it’s a step in the right direction for those in France who didn’t want Brexit. As you say it’s not really a win just yet but the months / years ahead will be interesting.

You must have me confused with somebody else. Looking for Brexit benefits would be a fools errand, and as the best pro-Brexit brains in the land have already scoured for anything that could possibly be described as a benefit and drawn a complet blank, I'd hardly be likely to do any better.

If they say so. I'm not going to stump up to read that.

Reports I've read seem to coalesce around the process not being complete, firstly the entire law requiring scrutiny by the Constitutional Council to ensure it doesn't breach the Constitution in any way (can't see why it would if the MPs know their job), and secondly this part of it requiring a decree to determine exact conditions and application.

Ah, well - that's a little different to "It's never going to happen" on this one, anyway.

The supposed Spanish lobbying seems to have been a bit of a fantasy, though.

I still don't think it's going to happen in the way the Independent thinks it will which is littered with a very heavy dose of wishful thinking. I very much doubt the EU will allow a member state to devise a visa that completely bypasses freedom of movement and offers equal benefits to a third country. There is still a very long way to go on this and it could be chucked out or seriously watered down.

I think it's all terribly sad really when you consider a few desperate people are thrown a few crumbs by the French state that are a mere shadow of the enormous benefits they enjoyed pre Brexit and it's being championed as some kind of win.

Agreed, however (posted by me elsewhere) -

The idea, whatever it's motivation, makes a mockery of the present system. While one can sympathise with home owners whose use is now restricted (assuming they did (were able) to vote remain) the fact is that the UK voted for Brexit and as somebody said "Brexit is Brexit" and the UK population has to accept it.

Like you, I have huge sympathy for people who voted Remain and got caught up in this garbage but I'm not convinced that a sizeable majority of the homeowners in France have honourable Brexit credentials - think Lawson for example. They were strangely silent immediately after the referendum result and they were not vocal prior to the withdrawal agreement and were probably busy banging on about the will of the people... until they realised how badly Brexit affected them. I didn't come across this particular group when I was part of the Associated EU Citizenship pressure group - I was still British back then.

​​​​​​As an aside although relevant, many of these people were residing in France full time prior to Brexit (not strictly legit of course) so six months in one go is not much use to them, they need good old EU freedom of movement.

Good luck with thrashing out the finer details of this scheme, it sounds like a logistical nightmare!

Bit confused here now Lou, the above you now mention, residing full time, should not have had a problem - makes a mockery of those of us who were (are) fully legitimate.
I remember clearly, before Brexit actually became a fact, the exhortations of the British Ambassador and the Hungarian Minister of State who kept repeating - if your not registered, GET registered - NOW!

Sorry, I should have been clearer!

Back in the day, I came across people pre Brexit who more or less lived full time in France but were not actually resident ie registered and paying tax there. These are the people I was referring to who will not benefit from this new visa if it ever happens because they will not be able to go back to what they were doing pre Brexit. It's not legit obviously but it is what they were doing.
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I remember Lawson tried to obtain residency in France post Brexit but refused to pay tax there so they gave him the bum's rush!