Can Spain convince Brussels
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Very unlikely as all Schengen nations would have to agree and it would then apply to all non-EU citizens, not just the Brits.
Spain is free to issue its own visas just like France has done where you can apply for a 6 month visa.
Spain is free to issue its own visas just like France has done where you can apply for a 6 month visa.
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It's highly unlikely.
It would discriminate against other third country nationals, it smacks of exceptionalism and it undermines the Schengen zone. It would also be wide open to abuse with UK nationals entering and exiting from Spain and then travelling on to other EU states who do not exercise such a waiver.
It would also pose problems with the EES system coming on line next year.
The Schengen members could devise a scheme whereby third country nationals can stay in the zone for six months but it's not something a member can decide unilaterally.
​​​​​​Re member, the UK government actually chose the arrangement in place now, it wasn't forced upon them.
It would discriminate against other third country nationals, it smacks of exceptionalism and it undermines the Schengen zone. It would also be wide open to abuse with UK nationals entering and exiting from Spain and then travelling on to other EU states who do not exercise such a waiver.
It would also pose problems with the EES system coming on line next year.
The Schengen members could devise a scheme whereby third country nationals can stay in the zone for six months but it's not something a member can decide unilaterally.
​​​​​​Re member, the UK government actually chose the arrangement in place now, it wasn't forced upon them.
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A report in the Majorca Daily Bulletin over the weekend claimed Spain now wants to scrap the 90/180 day rule and will lobby the EU to achieve this goal.
The article did not cite sources for the new story but said politicians are “set to ask EU authorities to relax the rule for British holidaymakers.â€
It comes after a similar report in the i in November last year.
Spanish Tourism Secretary Fernando Valdés told the British newspaper at the time: “Unfortunately, [the rule] is not something Spain has established by itself or can get rid of.
It is true that after Brexit some problems have emerged with people wanting to stay longer.â€
He added: “It is in our interest to lobby and convince [the EU] we can try to work an exception with them. But the solution must come from them.â€
There does not appear to have been any meaningful updates since the declaration last year.
The article did not cite sources for the new story but said politicians are “set to ask EU authorities to relax the rule for British holidaymakers.â€
It comes after a similar report in the i in November last year.
Spanish Tourism Secretary Fernando Valdés told the British newspaper at the time: “Unfortunately, [the rule] is not something Spain has established by itself or can get rid of.
It is true that after Brexit some problems have emerged with people wanting to stay longer.â€
He added: “It is in our interest to lobby and convince [the EU] we can try to work an exception with them. But the solution must come from them.â€
There does not appear to have been any meaningful updates since the declaration last year.
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France has a 1-year visa suitable for tourists, the Spanish equivalent seems to be a NLV.
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Does Spain have a need to take measures to increase the number of tourist visits? From all the reports I've seen numbers are increasing anyway so it would seem not. If non resident British property owners decide to sell up because they don't want to be restricted to 90 days in 180, and the properties are bought by other nationalities, it is not to the detriment of the Spanish authorities as they benefit from the transfer tax generated by more property transactions. And all those 3% retentions for CGT liability from non resident sellers.
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Would be good for British seasonal workers In Spain. There were plenty of job vacancies in Salou when I was there last. I wonder how British workers are getting on in places like Ibiza now that they can only potentially do half a season.
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If someone is working here with all the necessary paperwork then they can stay and live here all year round, no?



