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Old Nov 1st 2023 | 3:46 am
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To remove the 90-day rule for non-residents?

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Old Nov 1st 2023 | 4:25 am
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Very unlikely as all Schengen nations would have to agree and it would then apply to all non-EU citizens, not just the Brits.

Spain is free to issue its own visas just like France has done where you can apply for a 6 month visa.
 
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So, this is what they meant with "having a cake and eating it to"...
 
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It's highly unlikely.

It would discriminate against other third country nationals, it smacks of exceptionalism and it undermines the Schengen zone. It would also be wide open to abuse with UK nationals entering and exiting from Spain and then travelling on to other EU states who do not exercise such a waiver.

It would also pose problems with the EES system coming on line next year.

The Schengen members could devise a scheme whereby third country nationals can stay in the zone for six months but it's not something a member can decide unilaterally.

​​​​​​Re member, the UK government actually chose the arrangement in place now, it wasn't forced upon them.
 
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A report in the Majorca Daily Bulletin over the weekend claimed Spain now wants to scrap the 90/180 day rule and will lobby the EU to achieve this goal.

The article did not cite sources for the new story but said politicians are “set to ask EU authorities to relax the rule for British holidaymakers.”

It comes after a similar report in the i in November last year.

Spanish Tourism Secretary Fernando Valdés told the British newspaper at the time: “Unfortunately, [the rule] is not something Spain has established by itself or can get rid of.

It is true that after Brexit some problems have emerged with people wanting to stay longer.”

He added: “It is in our interest to lobby and convince [the EU] we can try to work an exception with them. But the solution must come from them.”

There does not appear to have been any meaningful updates since the declaration last year.
 
Old Nov 1st 2023 | 8:24 am
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France has a 1-year visa suitable for tourists, the Spanish equivalent seems to be a NLV.
 
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Maybe an exception for property owners.....waive your escritura and in you come.
 
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Does Spain have a need to take measures to increase the number of tourist visits? From all the reports I've seen numbers are increasing anyway so it would seem not. If non resident British property owners decide to sell up because they don't want to be restricted to 90 days in 180, and the properties are bought by other nationalities, it is not to the detriment of the Spanish authorities as they benefit from the transfer tax generated by more property transactions. And all those 3% retentions for CGT liability from non resident sellers.

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Default Re: Can Spain convince Brussels

as I posted on another thread - how would this affect the 90 day residency rule?
 
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Default Re: Can Spain convince Brussels

Originally Posted by snikpoh
as I posted on another thread - how would this affect the 90 day residency rule?
I guess it would be the same as pre Brexit, simply ignored. I don't see how Spain can simply choose to not have certain rules apply to them which apply to other Schengen countries. As for suggestion that those that own property in Spain be exempt the Schengen rules, some people may well have actually made themselves resident specifically so they can enjoy their property post brexit. I think changing it now would be very unfair on such people. I don't see the EU allowing this change of rules. One never knows though.
 
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This boring subject keeps pooping up every few months. Cant wait for next cycle.
 
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Default Re: Can Spain convince Brussels

Would be good for British seasonal workers In Spain. There were plenty of job vacancies in Salou when I was there last. I wonder how British workers are getting on in places like Ibiza now that they can only potentially do half a season.
 
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Default Re: Can Spain convince Brussels

Originally Posted by spainrico
Maybe an exception for property owners.....waive your escritura and in you come.
Sure, if your house cost half a million euros...
 
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Originally Posted by Stingychips
Would be good for British seasonal workers In Spain. There were plenty of job vacancies in Salou when I was there last. I wonder how British workers are getting on in places like Ibiza now that they can only potentially do half a season.
If someone is working here with all the necessary paperwork then they can stay and live here all year round, no?
 
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Seems the french government is trying to make it easier for the islanders to stay longer.... Never happen though as I will be one of the first to take it to the courts...
 


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