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Old Feb 1st 2014 | 6:08 am
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Originally Posted by Bipat
Why would anyone condone the genital mutilation of girls by some African nationals?
I have explained in a previous post that forced marriage is illegal in India and would be denounced by the majority.
People have been jailed there if caught trafficking or procuring any girls for such a marriage.

What has this got to do with not being able to distinguish one brown face from another and the negative concept that 'they are all the same'?
I have not made any comments on not being able to tell one Brown face from another. I am talking about this thread which is called British standards and asking why some non white British children are not given the same rights as white British children.
 
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Except for the very nice Indian family that JT and her community have taken to their heart, I doubt that they would feel the same if the i Indian family invited their extended family from around the UK and from India to come and live locally.
I think that I shall call you Margo from now on JT, your posts are getting more and more like that character.
 
Old Feb 1st 2014 | 6:11 am
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Originally Posted by jackytoo
Here it is the definitive PC speak as put out by a University. Use it as a fly spray to keep LIW away

http://dissc.tees.ac.uk/Writing/style/Page12.htm
What a load of nonsense, it just gets dafter, you shouldn't call someone from the West Indies, West Indian, African-Caribbean is preferable. It's been many years since they came from Africa, perhaps I should be Viking English or Scandinavian English!

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Old Feb 1st 2014 | 6:13 am
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Originally Posted by agoreira
What a load of nonsense, it just gets dafter, you shouldn't call someone from the West Indies, West Indian, African-Caribbean is preferable.
Wait until you have to call Spanish peeps IBerian.
 
Old Feb 1st 2014 | 6:21 am
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Wait until you have to call Spanish peeps IBerian.
Well the Spanish, like the Brits, have a bit of all sorts mixed in there, the Romans, Indians (gitanos), Arabs, Jews to name a few, so not sure what bit to prefix the Iberian with!
 
Old Feb 1st 2014 | 6:29 am
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Originally Posted by agoreira
Well the Spanish, like the Brits, have a bit of all sorts mixed in there, the Romans, Indians (gitanos), Arabs, Jews to name a few, so not sure what bit to prefix the Iberian with!
I couldn't give a monkey's what I am called. I have all names thrown at me on here. Water off a ducks back.

Anyway as much as I am enjoying myself here, must get ready as tonight is Saturday night. A bit of a break from posting is a good thing especially for the preachers on the outrage bus.
 
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I couldn't give a monkey's what I am called. .
No, nor me, that's why I find it hard to understand why someone objects to being called West Indian, or a black person being referred to as black.
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I have not made any comments on not being able to tell one Brown face from another. I am talking about this thread which is called British standards and asking why some non white British children are not given the same rights as white British children.
I thought actually it was about education standards? it then extended to the "Asians" being bussed in to better areas of schooling".

Of course all citizens should have equal rights and there are many in all communities in the UK trying to ensure this.
You could also ask why some white British babies are still being returned by social services to mothers unfit to care for them ending with the death of babies/toddlers in too many cases.

Enjoy your evening out, I have seriously ruined my afternoon selecting on-line bets for the Cheltenham festival. At the instigation of OH He has acquired too many English habits.
 
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Originally Posted by jackytoo
So how would you DESCRIBE them...you are not answering the question AGAIN eg. you could be a writer, asked by the Police, it could be relevant.

PS I use the word Paki as I would use the word Brit and we have been over this in countless threads and I don't give a toss what you think.
 
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I have not made any comments on not being able to tell one Brown face from another. I am talking about this thread which is called British standards and asking why some non white British children are not given the same rights as white British children.
then if that is a problem explain to me (and the rest of the world) why native Ethnic British kids are not given the same education as their peers because they happen to be lumped in a class of non-English language speaking kids

call it Elitist if you will but the kids of the country concerned cannot get a basic edikayshun in accordance with the law of the land because they are continually having to work to the lower language standards of incomers

if your kids in Spain were held back because of native British kids with a lack of Spanish you would go ballistic.

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Originally Posted by Bipat
I thought actually it was about education standards? it then extended to the "Asians" being bussed in to better areas of schooling".

Of course all citizens should have equal rights and there are many in all communities in the UK trying to ensure this.
You could also ask why some white British babies are still being returned by social services to mothers unfit to care for them ending with the death of babies/toddlers in too many cases.

Enjoy your evening out, I have seriously ruined my afternoon selecting on-line bets for the Cheltenham festival. At the instigation of OH He has acquired too many English habits.
I know of a school only 70miles outside London where the education authority tried to re-write the school catchment area boundaries, putting things back to where they were a decade or so ago, where kids living near/adjacent to a particular school stood a good chance if being schooled there.
They were beaten down by groups of ethnic minorities who demanded that as their older kids were being schooled there the youngsters automatically should be schooled there. This despite the school being over 3 miles or more for the kids to get there.
So native British are actually being forced to travel over 3 miles to school when there is one around the corner and kids from ethnic minorities are being bused in by parents and taxi on a daily basis.

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Originally Posted by agoreira
It's simply an abbreviation, a bit like Brit, it's how you interpret it that's the problem. As ex military, nearly all my mates were Jock, Taff, Paddy, Janner, Scouse, Geordie etc, nobody minded or took offence, it simply referred to where they came from.
Paki is different from those because Paki is offensive. It might not seem so to you but it is. Just bear in mind that if you use it you will be offending people although I do realise that offending people might not bother you.
 
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Originally Posted by jimenato
Paki is different from those because Paki is offensive. It might not seem so to you but it is. Just bear in mind that if you use it you will be offending people although I do realise that offending people might not bother you.
You could only properly judge wether or not it is offensive by asking those on the receiving end of such a remark if they are offended by it.

I recall such a survey was conducted a few years ago and a clear majority said they weren't at all offended by the term.

I don't use the term myself, but am merely pointing out that it is not necessarily as derogatory as many believe it to be.
 
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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
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I don't use the term myself, but am merely pointing out that it is not necessarily as derogatory as many believe it to be.
Nor me, agree, of course it doesn't have to offensive.
A "Pakistani" producing his clothes range "Paki", says
"Paki is just a shortened version of Pakistani - its literal meaning is 'the pure' - so why should anyone be afraid of being called pure? A native from Kazakhstan is a Kazakh, someone from Uzbekistan is an Uzbek; so why is someone from Pakistan not allowed to be called a Paki?"
This rather amused me, well he is a "Pakistani" comedian.

Jeff Mirza, who was born in Pakistan but brought up in Essex, was questioned over the use of the term in his act “Meet Abu Hamsta and Paki Bashir” at the Edinburgh Fringe.
Mr Mirza, 49, was dressed in character as a butcher, called Paki Bashir, when he was questioned at the police station on the Royal Mile in Edinburgh. He was warned that he could be arrested and charged if he continued to use the poster, although he is continuing to do so.
Mr Mirza said: “How on earth can I be accused of racism against my own community?”
His act centres on jokes about Pakistan and the wider Islamic world. His main character, Bashir, tells the audience he loves his family, “otherwise of his workforce” and says of Pakistan: “We also have a thriving gay community and they are also known as clerics.”
Other characters include Hamsta, a Saudi said to be al Qaeda’s ambassador of the arts in Luton. There is also Jameela, a woman in a burka, who tells how she was widowed when her first husband blew himself up as a suicide bomber at the third attempt.
“But a few years ago I realised that I am a Paki and I should be proud of that. Pakistan means Land of the Pure and what’s wrong with that?
 


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