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We went out for a meal last night in a predominatly asian ( bangladeshi muslim ) area.
Fearing the worse ( according to the beliefs of some posters ) we expected to see all the local women wearing nicabs and desperate young girls at upstairs windows pleading to be rescued from their forced marriages.
We did not see any groups of bearded fundamentalists and the two obviously gay couples on an adjoining table were not doused in petrol and set on fire.
Me Me your comment regarding different rules is all too true, the likes of Saville and others were protected by the " establishment " and allowed to continue their abuse for decades.
Definetly different rules for some !!

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I wonder if in Bangladesh they would have been treated the same.

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Sorry , I thought that some of you believe that such areas as this in many UK towns and cities are ruled by fundementalists practising the worst parts of Sharia law.
Maybe there is more tolerance in these communities than on this forum ??

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Ever been?

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Just one jaunt into a Bangladeshi restaurant proves what:zzz::zzz: FA Most users of ethnic eateries are white English.

Plenty on the web about no go areas in various parts of the country where vigilantes wanting sharia law try to police the area. Been on TV too.

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dont need to go, google is your friend when it comes to finding horrific acts of sharia law carried out, such a lovely place - Matt you have issues if you find this acceptable, seriously issues

Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN) -- Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl.
Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public.
Hena dropped after 70.
Bloodied and bruised, she was taken to hospital, where she died a week later

what does EMR mean by the worst parts

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Don't try and twist this around Mt Griffin, it ain't gonna wash with me. You are, ignorantly tarnishing more than a billion and a half people with the same brush.... that's like me saying that every single Christian on the planet is a child abuser.

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Any doubters should paste into google what I posted yesterday. Lots on sharia law in the UK much of it posted by Asian women.

in Britain there are now 85 Sharia councils implementing Sharia law on the streets of London, Birmingham, Bradford and elsewhere.

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I don't know enough about the topic to comment in any great depth on Muslim pactises in those areas of the UK where they are in the majority. I can say that at least on the surface I am appalled by some of them already mentioned on this thread, so I needn't repeat them.

From my limited observations, and in line with what I think British people do generally if they are able to, they move away. If the Bangladeshis in Stepney annoy them, they move to Essex; if the Muslims in Manor Park or Walthamstow worry them, they move to East Anglia.

Nobody is going to get stoned for adultery there, nor will they be hanged for being gay.

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Im not turning nothing round I was talking only about Sharia Law nothing else, jimmy savile et all.

You keep twisting and asking.

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And Christians. Christians must be anti gay too mustn't they? Read Leviticus.

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When was the last time any one in the UK muslim community was stoned for adultery or hanged for being gay??

I do not read the Mail, Express , Today or Sun so I will have to admit to having missed it.
But I do not remember seeing on the TV news either.

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No and long may it stay that way but they do push boundries, like the underage marriages of 12 year old girls which is totally unacceptable and illegal

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So you agree that your views are based on ignorance and lack of evidence !!

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Following this television expose of clerics, clearly identified by name and the authorities know who and where they are, who are prepared to carry out illegal religious marriage ceremonies involving under-age girls, I would like to see what the UK authorities do about it.

I have seen investigative journalism before, only last year about doctors and even unqualified people who were prepared to carry out female genital mutilation on girls in the UK, which is also illegal (as it most certainly should be). Again, the authorities knew who these people were. But what has been done about it? Nothing - the CPS is only just now (over a month ago) saying that the first such prosecution in the UK may be "close". How close? Just how much evidence do they need? Why have there been over 100 successful convictions in France and no prosecutions, never mind convictions, in the UK?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23982767

By the way, this is the case in Spain I mentioned earlier in the thread. The authorities here obviously have very robust arrangements in place for tackling the problem, with a representative from social services having visited the parents at home to make it clear to them that the practice is illegal in Spain, followed by regular gynaeological check-ups on the children, which is how the mutilation came to be discovered.

http://elpais.com/elpais/2013/05/26/...91_732099.html

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I have views on Sharia Law which has absolutely no place in our society and I already have stated that I would not visit a country that is ruled by any type of islamic law.

Other than that I do not know understand what views you seem to think I allude to.

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Just read your posts.

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[QUOTE=Lynn R;10942440]Following this television expose of clerics, clearly identified by name and the authorities know who and where they are, who are prepared to carry out illegal religious marriage ceremonies involving under-age girls, I would like to see what the UK authorities do about it.

I have seen investigative journalism before, only last year about doctors and even unqualified people who were prepared to carry out female genital mutilation on girls in the UK, which is also illegal (as it most certainly should be). Again, the authorities knew who these people were. But what has been done about it? Nothing - the CPS is only just now (over a month ago) saying that the first such prosecution in the UK may be "close". How close? Just how much evidence do they need? Why have there been over 100 successful convictions in France and no prosecutions, never mind convictions, in the UK?

I think the answer is in this forum. Everyone treats the Muslim community with kid gloves as they are either scared of being branded racist. The rest have the British traditional apologist stance. Goes back to the first post on here and why that appalling school was not closed down earlier.

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What a terrible story, savages, from the court judge, to the flogger to the people who went to see the savagery, no doubt for entertainment.

It does make a forced marriage at 14 preferable though to being flogged to death in a public square.:thumbdown::thumbdown:



[QUOTE=j]Yes I think you have hit the nail on the head, it comes to something when supposedly right minded folk, think it is preferable to let young girls be treated so badly, because they are afraid to speak out and call a spade a shovel.

I admit I have never lived in a muslim or immigrant area, and have no desire to either.

And unlike some on here never had much to do with muslims not in working life or home/social life, not particularly by choice, it is just that it did not happen that way.

But I do wonder about people who claim to have worked or/and have well educated ,liberal, independent, professional muslim women if they ever asked them if their community and religious leaders are doing anything about abuse in the name of islam, and if not, why not?

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There is also an article in the sunday times about Tommy Robinson ( unapolagetic ex EDL thug ).
Just compare hos views with those of some posters on this thread.
Need I say anymore.

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They are.

http://harvardpolitics.com/blog/wp-c...afzai-1200.gif

Thread closed.

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MM you finaly admit that you have no knowledge of the UK that most of us live in .
I leave others to form their own views on the value of your opinions.

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Oh dear, you are seriously rattled.

Although unlike you I think it is terrible what muslims are doing in the name of islam in the UK, I actually do not live my life through this forum.

As you can see our post count differs rather dramatically.

you; joined Aug 2006 Posts: 44,091

me: joined April 2008 Posts: 1,463

What you have described is how yourself would react, because this forum is a lot more imortant to you than it is to me.

And although I am against what is happening in the UK, (which BTW I also feel the same way abuot other things that are happeing too) it is no so all consuming as it seems to you.

As long as my daughter is not involved with a muslim (of course that would not happen, as she is too smart and is getting married next year) the isues of Islam do not affect me directly.

So you unlike you my life does not have to revolve around trying not to offend by speaking out against savage practices, or upsetting some of the more tolerant posters who play such a large part in your life.

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I am sure other posters on here, just like us, live in pleasant places in the UK where niqabs and beards are not the norm.:D

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Where do yoi live in Spain ( where you admit you want to leave to avoid tax ) or the UK if so where ?

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WTF has it got to do with you?

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It seems 1/3 of YOUNG UK MUSLIMS believe a Muslim who converts to another religion should be executed.

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenf...-london-video/


And we are often told that Islam is a peaceful, tolerant religion.:rofl::rofl:

What a larf.....:rofl:

Maybe this should have been posted in the "jokes thread".

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So quick to quote biogted views but less so to be honest about their own circumstances.
Again form your own opinions.

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I have a beard - what are you saying that means about me?:blink:

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She said "niqabs and beards", I think she was just talking about the women.;)

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Niquabs and beards are not that commone around hera either even among the muslim populations.
But tatooos and fat bellies are ( the women that is , not the mulsims )

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Beards are not common in my area which is solidly PP (Conservative). With the exception of Rajoy, beards are more a socialist, Marxist thing, among white people anyway.

Fat bellies are everywhere, whether among the Spanish, expats, Conservatives or socialists.

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Er - how would you know, if someone if wearing a niquab?
:rofl:

Sorry, just couldn't resist.

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So again, what does this (TKWTA) mean?
Have you developed a new language as well as a phobia for the God botherers of this world?

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You nicab some say niquab, some say muslim other say abuser.. lets bring this thread to an end.
THose of you of certain age can add the music,

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Oh dear.... Really? The "post count" argument? Probably about time you backed away quietly isn't it?

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DOes that mean she has gone fo rever we can only hope so .

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speak for yourself

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Isn't this a personal attack:confused:

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However kookey or however "out there" other posters are I never want any to leave....