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Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by HBG
(Post 10983964)
Police in most countries, including the UK, have always had the right to stop, search and detain people if necessary if they suspect an offence has been committed, and that includes people wearing burkas.
Such a person can be taken to a police station to be searched by women officers without a male presence, a procedure which applies to all women suspects. But with the wealth of civil rights actions now taken against the police on a regular basis, it would take an extremely brave (or foolish) officer to detain a person wearing a burka in this way. He, or she, would be writing reports for weeks and would probably be summoned to appear before that horrible Keith Vaz at the House of Commons. They would probably get the sack, which is why they don't bother. |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
(Post 10983846)
And when certain principles are considered petty - principles that reflect hard-won freedoms z- that's when I start to worry.
you have the right to think it is "petty" but believe me it isn't and I get exceedingly angry at anyone who denies those who have made that ultimate sacrifice. get a life, get off the soap box and stop pushing your petty prejudices that are really based on personal perceptions and not on fact. :frown: |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by Domino
(Post 10984123)
as it is "that" weekend, I think I have every right based on my service to Queen and Country to decide where and when the freedoms that have been won by men and women who have made the ultimate sacrifice, ensuring we are here today with such freedoms as we do have.
you have the right to think it is "petty" but believe me it isn't and I get exceedingly angry at anyone who denies those who have made that ultimate sacrifice. get a life, get off the soap box and stop pushing your petty prejudices that are really based on personal perceptions and not on fact. :frown: |
Re: British standards ???
Me too:goodpost::D
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Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by me me
(Post 10983900)
I agree, muslim countries expect people to conform to dress codes etc, and quite right too.
Shouldn´t the UK expect the same, it cannot do much for community relations if women cannot recognise eachother, and it is not a way of forming community spirit amongst residents, with a barrier of black cloth, which effectively cuts both the wearer and the non wearer off from each other. Also doing a "selfie" is rather pointless.:D http://www.5pillarz.com/wp-content/u...ka-500x373.jpg didn't think that was allowed :eek: |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by HBG
(Post 10983964)
Police in most countries, including the UK, have always had the right to stop, search and detain people if necessary if they suspect an offence has been committed, and that includes people wearing burkas.
Such a person can be taken to a police station to be searched by women officers without a male presence, a procedure which applies to all women suspects. But with the wealth of civil rights actions now taken against the police on a regular basis, it would take an extremely brave (or foolish) officer to detain a person wearing a burka in this way. He, or she, would be writing reports for weeks and would probably be summoned to appear before that horrible Keith Vaz at the House of Commons. They would probably get the sack, which is why they don't bother. IMHO it is fear of being hit with the big foam pointy finger and having the word racist thrown at you that stops such actions. But blacks have been complaining for years of the higher than average "stop & search" arrests and that hasn't really stopped. So why do Muslims get free passage ?? If 20 witnesses say the robber was a black guy with dreadlocks that is the type of person who will get pulled - no use pulling a couple of dozen white city gents with short hair, pinstriped suit and bowler just to keep the figures "right" As to Keith Vaz, he is Teflon man. There are so many things he has been found to have his chubby fingers in - he is protected by religion and votes. if you end up infront of him just ask him if he can arrange a new passport for you. :rofl: |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by Domino
(Post 10986319)
et free passage ??
no use pulling a couple of dozen white city gents with short hair, pinstriped suit and bowler just to keep the figures "right" : |
Re: British standards ???
I thought that a few days away might see a change in the content and tone of postings.
What a fool I was, The usual suspects are busy putting out their biased nonsense , never let facts get in the way of bigotry. Yesterday was one of great importance to the UK , we paused to give thanks to those who gave ther lves for to maintain our way of life iincluding for those who seem to have forgotten tens of thousands of muslms and those of other faiths from the then empire who fought for you, JT, Me Me etc. |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by EMR
(Post 10987229)
I thought that a few days away might see a change in the content and tone of postings.
What a fool I was, The usual suspects are busy putting out their biased nonsense , never let facts get in the way of bigotry. Yesterday was one of great importance to the UK , we paused to give thanks to those who gave ther lves for to maintain our way of life iincluding for those who seem to have forgotten tens of thousands of muslms and those of other faiths from the then empire who fought for you, JT, Me Me etc. after his time in Burma my father had a great deal of difficulty in accepting that Japan after only a few short years had not only over taken the UK but taken it over in the shops. ` |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by EMR
(Post 10987229)
I thought that a few days away might see a change in the content and tone of postings.
What a fool I was, The usual suspects are busy putting out their biased nonsense , never let facts get in the way of bigotry. Yesterday was one of great importance to the UK , we paused to give thanks to those who gave ther lves for to maintain our way of life iincluding for those who seem to have forgotten tens of thousands of muslms and those of other faiths from the then empire who fought for you, JT, Me Me etc. A few of them surprised me, I had seen them lolling about in expat dress, shorts, vests, tattoos with some of the ladies in hot pants, but there they were, in suits and quite a few of them proudly showing their medals. They'll be back in shorts today, it's still warm enough. |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
(Post 10983717)
So you say "how would we know" but yet you seem to know it's a problem. Don't you think at least it would have been reported as "gang of mad burqa-wearing people terrorize shopping mall" etc?
As for the looters, to be sure their behaviour is criminal - but then so is all the same behaviour shown by those not wearing hoodies. This does not even come close to making it desirable to have the government dictating what we can and cannot wear. It is bad enough that we are all on camera all the time, but to not have the freedom to choose our own clothes because some potentate has decided not to allow it, and to presumably have the police have the powers to enforce that, has nothing to do with a free and open society and should not be tolerated. http://news.sky.com/story/1145286/ke...ed-up-as-women Some of the terrorists who targeted a shopping complex in Nairobi were dressed as women, according to a Kenyan minister. The statement "to have the government dictating what we can and cannot wear" is making it sound like some kind of style police issue which it is not (at least it's not to me - I'm sure some here are affronted by someone wearing something different from their norm). It is simply a security issue. |
Re: British standards ???
Does that mean that the transvestite community in the UK will also now be added to list of the potential security risks.
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Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by EMR
(Post 10987507)
Does that mean that the transvestite community in the UK will also now be added to list of the potential security risks.
I´m sure if men in dresses were walking down the street they might conjure a few giggles from people. However, if a group of men were wearing masks whilst walking down the street.....oh sod it! I can´t be bothered it´s so basic! |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by IamStu
(Post 10987520)
That´s a bit of a daft thing to say EMR.
I´m sure if men in dresses were walking down the street they might conjure a few giggles from people. However, if a group of men were wearing masks whilst walking down the street.....oh sod it! I can´t be bothered it´s so basic! I'm sure some here are being obtuse for the sake of it. |
Re: British standards ???
Another here dressed in a burka who was arrested. He was linked to the 7/7 bombings.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...rrested-754846 |
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