BBC2 NI Moving to a Vertical Transponder
#1
For those who have trouble receiving BBC2 as it's on a horizontal transponder, there's some good news.
At 5am on October 18th, BBC2 Northern Ireland is moving to 10.817 V.
The majority of the schedule matches BBC2 England.
At 5am on October 18th, BBC2 Northern Ireland is moving to 10.817 V.
The majority of the schedule matches BBC2 England.
#2
#4
Apart from the post on DS, I have not seen anything else about this...but good news for more BBC2 reception if it does happen
I supposes it all a big shuffle around to make space for BBC1 HD - lets hope it is permanent.

I supposes it all a big shuffle around to make space for BBC1 HD - lets hope it is permanent.
Last edited by The Guy; Oct 14th 2010 at 6:37 am.
#5
This is really odd down here in Ayamonte I get BBC2 when all else pixalates but as you advised last week the vertical SKY Sports News and SS4 are very difficult to get why is this?
#6
Because SSN and SS4 are on a different satellite to BBC2, and the 4 satellites have differnet transmission characteristics / footprint.
#7
Important changes to BBC TV frequencies this weekend
There are some important changes happening on the BBC frequencies:
BBC1 West (Bristol)
BBC1 Channel Islands
BBC1 East (West) (Cambridge)
are all leaving their current frequency, and moving to the frequency currently used by BBC2 England - 10773 H
This means that their reception will be as per BBC2 England.
This means that BBC Channel Islands will no longer be recognised as being the strongest BBC1 region.
BBC1 Manchester
BBC1 Leeds
BBC 1 Tunbridge Wells
are all leaving their current frequency, and moving to the frequency currently used by BBC RAdio 5 Live and BBC1&2 Scotland - 10.802 H
This means that their reception will again be as per / similar to BBC2 England.
BBC1 Wales and BBC2 Wales
will be moving from their current frequency to 10.788v - moving from a weaker horizontal to a stronger vertical frequency. So these Wales regions reception will be as per most BBC1 regions ie - almost 24/7 on most big dishes. Meaning some areas will have 24/7 reception of a BBC2 region.
BBC1 Northern Ireland and BBC2 Northern Ireland
will be moving from their current frequency to 10.817v - moving from a weaker horizontal to a stronger vertical frequency. So these Northern Ireland regions reception will be as per most BBC1 regions ie - almost 24/7 on most big dishes. Meaning some areas will have 24/7 reception of a BBC2 region.
Why the changes?
The BBC have had to have a move around to amke space for the BBC1 HD channel.
This will be starting on Wednesday 3rd November.
The BBC had to make space for this channel, which will be on the same frequency as BBCHD channel.
The BBCHD channel will continue to operate showing "the best of the BBC in HD", and the BBC1 HD channel will be a simulcast of BBC1 London.
It will mean that if you watch BBC1 Channel Islands, then you will find that its reception has changed.
It will also mean that you should now have much better coverage of BBC2, either via BBC2 England (reception not changing), BBC2 Northern Ireland, and BBC2 Wales. The latter two regions have almost the same schedules as BBC2 England, with some minor changes for regional programmes.
Freesat and Sky boxes will automatically update themselves on Monday 18th October 2010 with these new frequencies.
Those with Non Sky or Freesat boxes will have to rescan the channels to make sure your boxes have the new BBC1 and BBC2 frequencies.
There are some important changes happening on the BBC frequencies:
BBC1 West (Bristol)
BBC1 Channel Islands
BBC1 East (West) (Cambridge)
are all leaving their current frequency, and moving to the frequency currently used by BBC2 England - 10773 H
This means that their reception will be as per BBC2 England.
This means that BBC Channel Islands will no longer be recognised as being the strongest BBC1 region.
BBC1 Manchester
BBC1 Leeds
BBC 1 Tunbridge Wells
are all leaving their current frequency, and moving to the frequency currently used by BBC RAdio 5 Live and BBC1&2 Scotland - 10.802 H
This means that their reception will again be as per / similar to BBC2 England.
BBC1 Wales and BBC2 Wales
will be moving from their current frequency to 10.788v - moving from a weaker horizontal to a stronger vertical frequency. So these Wales regions reception will be as per most BBC1 regions ie - almost 24/7 on most big dishes. Meaning some areas will have 24/7 reception of a BBC2 region.
BBC1 Northern Ireland and BBC2 Northern Ireland
will be moving from their current frequency to 10.817v - moving from a weaker horizontal to a stronger vertical frequency. So these Northern Ireland regions reception will be as per most BBC1 regions ie - almost 24/7 on most big dishes. Meaning some areas will have 24/7 reception of a BBC2 region.
Why the changes?
The BBC have had to have a move around to amke space for the BBC1 HD channel.
This will be starting on Wednesday 3rd November.
The BBC had to make space for this channel, which will be on the same frequency as BBCHD channel.
The BBCHD channel will continue to operate showing "the best of the BBC in HD", and the BBC1 HD channel will be a simulcast of BBC1 London.
It will mean that if you watch BBC1 Channel Islands, then you will find that its reception has changed.
It will also mean that you should now have much better coverage of BBC2, either via BBC2 England (reception not changing), BBC2 Northern Ireland, and BBC2 Wales. The latter two regions have almost the same schedules as BBC2 England, with some minor changes for regional programmes.
Freesat and Sky boxes will automatically update themselves on Monday 18th October 2010 with these new frequencies.
Those with Non Sky or Freesat boxes will have to rescan the channels to make sure your boxes have the new BBC1 and BBC2 frequencies.
Last edited by The Guy; Oct 15th 2010 at 6:36 pm.
#10
BBC One HD - 3rd November 2010
BBC One HD will be available – from 3 November – on Freesat channel 108, Sky channel 143
BBC HD will be available – from 3 November – on Freesat channel 109, Sky channel 169
Both of these HD channel are on the "old BBC Channel Islands frequency", so reception will be as BBC CI was before Monday 18th October.
Both BBC HD channel will be available for free on HD satellite receivers.
Dont know wher BBC Alba, that is currently on 169 on Sky is going...
BBC One HD will be available – from 3 November – on Freesat channel 108, Sky channel 143
BBC HD will be available – from 3 November – on Freesat channel 109, Sky channel 169
Both of these HD channel are on the "old BBC Channel Islands frequency", so reception will be as BBC CI was before Monday 18th October.
Both BBC HD channel will be available for free on HD satellite receivers.
Dont know wher BBC Alba, that is currently on 169 on Sky is going...
#12
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Hi,
Thanks for the information on setting up Sky for the channel move.
We can get a great Anglia West ITV picture past midnight, but BBC is a no go, even on BBC1NI and BBC2 NI. Once it gets to about 2030 it starts to break up to the point it gets unwatchable.
We've got a 2.4m Portuguese Dish, with an invacom twin LNB and two Pace DS430N receivers.
I know here near Ontinyent is about as bad as you can get but I wondered if there is any other way around the problem. Would a larger dish or a better LNB be worth trying?
I know I could use a proxy on the PC, but that ties the internet up and I'd rather find a satellite solution to the problem.
Thanks in advance.
Phill
Thanks for the information on setting up Sky for the channel move.
We can get a great Anglia West ITV picture past midnight, but BBC is a no go, even on BBC1NI and BBC2 NI. Once it gets to about 2030 it starts to break up to the point it gets unwatchable.
We've got a 2.4m Portuguese Dish, with an invacom twin LNB and two Pace DS430N receivers.
I know here near Ontinyent is about as bad as you can get but I wondered if there is any other way around the problem. Would a larger dish or a better LNB be worth trying?
I know I could use a proxy on the PC, but that ties the internet up and I'd rather find a satellite solution to the problem.
Thanks in advance.
Phill
#13
Perhaps you dish needs realigning (strongs winds can knock it out of alignment), or your LNB needs replacing (they do tend to need to be replaced about every 4 years or so, and the heat can have an impact on their performance, replaced quite a few since august!) or you have cabling issues (water in the cable or just poor quality cable!).
Ontinyente is not the worst place - inland between Benidorm and Alicante is probably the worst. I have a fair number of 2.4,m dishes around Ont getting BBC1 OK 24/7.
The next size up is to add "petals" to your 2.4m dish, but in reality, for the cost they dont really add that much to reception times.
Yuu probably get Anglia ITV as that is a sky card version, and is on a different satellite completely to the free to air (no card) versions of ITV1 which is on a weaker satellite
PS - PM sent
Ontinyente is not the worst place - inland between Benidorm and Alicante is probably the worst. I have a fair number of 2.4,m dishes around Ont getting BBC1 OK 24/7.
The next size up is to add "petals" to your 2.4m dish, but in reality, for the cost they dont really add that much to reception times.
Yuu probably get Anglia ITV as that is a sky card version, and is on a different satellite completely to the free to air (no card) versions of ITV1 which is on a weaker satellite
PS - PM sent
Last edited by The Guy; Oct 31st 2010 at 10:33 am.
#14
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Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 3

Perhaps you dish needs realigning (strongs winds can knock it out of alignment), or your LNB needs replacing (they do tend to need to be replaced about every 4 years or so, and the heat can have an impact on their performance, replaced quite a few since august!) or you have cabling issues (water in the cable or just poor quality cable!).
Ontinyente is not the worst place - inland between Benidorm and Alicante is probably the worst. I have a fair number of 2.4,m dishes around Ont getting BBC1 OK 24/7.
The next size up is to add "petals" to your 2.4m dish, but in reality, for the cost they dont really add that much to reception times.
Yuu probably get Anglia ITV as that is a sky card version, and is on a different satellite completely to the free to air (no card) versions of ITV1 which is on a weaker satellite.
PS - PM sent
Ontinyente is not the worst place - inland between Benidorm and Alicante is probably the worst. I have a fair number of 2.4,m dishes around Ont getting BBC1 OK 24/7.
The next size up is to add "petals" to your 2.4m dish, but in reality, for the cost they dont really add that much to reception times.
Yuu probably get Anglia ITV as that is a sky card version, and is on a different satellite completely to the free to air (no card) versions of ITV1 which is on a weaker satellite.
PS - PM sent
Sorry I cannot read your pm as the moderators won't let me until I've made three posts!!
My wife is really pleased that all is not lost!! I'm pretty sure that the dish is still aligned, it's on a good base and sheltered by the house. If others can still get BBC on a 2.4 then no point in upgrading.
The LNB sounds like the best first move, it's four years old, and as you say sits in the sun all day.
Thanks
Phill
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yeah - pesky mods! lol!
the PM mentioned I am in your area tomorrow so can pop around if you want.
have now emailed you using the email you have linked this account to.
the PM mentioned I am in your area tomorrow so can pop around if you want.
have now emailed you using the email you have linked this account to.
Last edited by The Guy; Oct 31st 2010 at 10:03 pm.






