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derek500 Oct 14th 2010 3:43 am

BBC2 NI Moving to a Vertical Transponder
 
For those who have trouble receiving BBC2 as it's on a horizontal transponder, there's some good news.

At 5am on October 18th, BBC2 Northern Ireland is moving to 10.817 V.

The majority of the schedule matches BBC2 England.

Mitzyboy Oct 14th 2010 3:44 am

Re: BBC2 NI Moving to a Vertical Transponder
 

Originally Posted by derek500 (Post 8918370)
For those who have trouble receiving BBC2 as it's on a horizontal transponder, there's some good news.

At 5am on October 18th, BBC2 Northern Ireland is moving to 10.817 V.

The majority of the schedule matches BBC2 England.

Thats a good thing ... I think .... as long as I can figure out how to find it :lol:

derek500 Oct 14th 2010 4:28 am

Re: BBC2 NI Moving to a Vertical Transponder
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 8918378)
Thats a good thing ... I think .... as long as I can figure out how to find it :lol:

992 on Sky.

The Guy Oct 14th 2010 5:46 am

Re: BBC2 NI Moving to a Vertical Transponder
 
Apart from the post on DS, I have not seen anything else about this...but good news for more BBC2 reception if it does happen:fingerscrossed:

I supposes it all a big shuffle around to make space for BBC1 HD - lets hope it is permanent.

EsuriJohn Oct 14th 2010 10:25 pm

Re: BBC2 NI Moving to a Vertical Transponder
 

Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 8918662)
Apart from the post on DS, I have not seen anything else about this...but good news for more BBC2 reception if it does happen:fingerscrossed:

I supposes it all a big shuffle around to make space for BBC1 HD - lets hope it is permanent.

This is really odd down here in Ayamonte I get BBC2 when all else pixalates but as you advised last week the vertical SKY Sports News and SS4 are very difficult to get why is this?

The Guy Oct 15th 2010 1:55 am

Re: BBC2 NI Moving to a Vertical Transponder
 

Originally Posted by John & Kath (Post 8919898)
This is really odd down here in Ayamonte I get BBC2 when all else pixalates but as you advised last week the vertical SKY Sports News and SS4 are very difficult to get why is this?

Because SSN and SS4 are on a different satellite to BBC2, and the 4 satellites have differnet transmission characteristics / footprint.

The Guy Oct 15th 2010 6:23 pm

Re: BBC2 NI Moving to a Vertical Transponder
 
Important changes to BBC TV frequencies this weekend

There are some important changes happening on the BBC frequencies:


BBC1 West (Bristol)
BBC1 Channel Islands
BBC1 East (West) (Cambridge)

are all leaving their current frequency, and moving to the frequency currently used by BBC2 England - 10773 H
This means that their reception will be as per BBC2 England.
This means that BBC Channel Islands will no longer be recognised as being the strongest BBC1 region.

BBC1 Manchester
BBC1 Leeds
BBC 1 Tunbridge Wells

are all leaving their current frequency, and moving to the frequency currently used by BBC RAdio 5 Live and BBC1&2 Scotland - 10.802 H
This means that their reception will again be as per / similar to BBC2 England.

BBC1 Wales and BBC2 Wales

will be moving from their current frequency to 10.788v - moving from a weaker horizontal to a stronger vertical frequency. So these Wales regions reception will be as per most BBC1 regions ie - almost 24/7 on most big dishes. Meaning some areas will have 24/7 reception of a BBC2 region.

BBC1 Northern Ireland and BBC2 Northern Ireland

will be moving from their current frequency to 10.817v - moving from a weaker horizontal to a stronger vertical frequency. So these Northern Ireland regions reception will be as per most BBC1 regions ie - almost 24/7 on most big dishes. Meaning some areas will have 24/7 reception of a BBC2 region.

Why the changes?
The BBC have had to have a move around to amke space for the BBC1 HD channel.
This will be starting on Wednesday 3rd November.
The BBC had to make space for this channel, which will be on the same frequency as BBCHD channel.
The BBCHD channel will continue to operate showing "the best of the BBC in HD", and the BBC1 HD channel will be a simulcast of BBC1 London.

It will mean that if you watch BBC1 Channel Islands, then you will find that its reception has changed.

It will also mean that you should now have much better coverage of BBC2, either via BBC2 England (reception not changing), BBC2 Northern Ireland, and BBC2 Wales. The latter two regions have almost the same schedules as BBC2 England, with some minor changes for regional programmes.

Freesat and Sky boxes will automatically update themselves on Monday 18th October 2010 with these new frequencies.

Those with Non Sky or Freesat boxes will have to rescan the channels to make sure your boxes have the new BBC1 and BBC2 frequencies.

derek500 Oct 17th 2010 11:21 pm

Re: BBC2 NI Moving to a Vertical Transponder
 
All changed this morning.

jdr Oct 18th 2010 12:41 am

Re: BBC2 NI Moving to a Vertical Transponder
 

Originally Posted by derek500 (Post 8925872)
All changed this morning.

Yeah our boxes had to be rebooted for some reason. :sneaky:

The Guy Oct 21st 2010 3:36 am

BBC One HD - 3rd November 2010
 
BBC One HD - 3rd November 2010

BBC One HD will be available – from 3 November – on Freesat channel 108, Sky channel 143

BBC HD will be available – from 3 November – on Freesat channel 109, Sky channel 169

Both of these HD channel are on the "old BBC Channel Islands frequency", so reception will be as BBC CI was before Monday 18th October.

Both BBC HD channel will be available for free on HD satellite receivers.

Dont know wher BBC Alba, that is currently on 169 on Sky is going...

The Guy Oct 21st 2010 6:10 am

Re: BBC One HD - 3rd November 2010
 

Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 8933712)
Dont know wher BBC Alba, that is currently on 169 on Sky is going...

Forget that - Alba is on 168!

Doh - long day!

Phillx Oct 31st 2010 8:04 am

Re: BBC2 NI Moving to a Vertical Transponder
 
Hi,

Thanks for the information on setting up Sky for the channel move.

We can get a great Anglia West ITV picture past midnight, but BBC is a no go, even on BBC1NI and BBC2 NI. Once it gets to about 2030 it starts to break up to the point it gets unwatchable.

We've got a 2.4m Portuguese Dish, with an invacom twin LNB and two Pace DS430N receivers.

I know here near Ontinyent is about as bad as you can get but I wondered if there is any other way around the problem. Would a larger dish or a better LNB be worth trying?

I know I could use a proxy on the PC, but that ties the internet up and I'd rather find a satellite solution to the problem.

Thanks in advance.

Phill

The Guy Oct 31st 2010 10:04 am

Re: BBC2 NI Moving to a Vertical Transponder
 
Perhaps you dish needs realigning (strongs winds can knock it out of alignment), or your LNB needs replacing (they do tend to need to be replaced about every 4 years or so, and the heat can have an impact on their performance, replaced quite a few since august!) or you have cabling issues (water in the cable or just poor quality cable!).

Ontinyente is not the worst place - inland between Benidorm and Alicante is probably the worst. I have a fair number of 2.4,m dishes around Ont getting BBC1 OK 24/7.

The next size up is to add "petals" to your 2.4m dish, but in reality, for the cost they dont really add that much to reception times.

Yuu probably get Anglia ITV as that is a sky card version, and is on a different satellite completely to the free to air (no card) versions of ITV1 which is on a weaker satellite

PS - PM sent

Phillx Oct 31st 2010 9:39 pm

Re: BBC2 NI Moving to a Vertical Transponder
 

Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 8953659)
Perhaps you dish needs realigning (strongs winds can knock it out of alignment), or your LNB needs replacing (they do tend to need to be replaced about every 4 years or so, and the heat can have an impact on their performance, replaced quite a few since august!) or you have cabling issues (water in the cable or just poor quality cable!).

Ontinyente is not the worst place - inland between Benidorm and Alicante is probably the worst. I have a fair number of 2.4,m dishes around Ont getting BBC1 OK 24/7.

The next size up is to add "petals" to your 2.4m dish, but in reality, for the cost they dont really add that much to reception times.

Yuu probably get Anglia ITV as that is a sky card version, and is on a different satellite completely to the free to air (no card) versions of ITV1 which is on a weaker satellite.

PS - PM sent

Thanks for your quick reply "The Guy"

Sorry I cannot read your pm as the moderators won't let me until I've made three posts!!

My wife is really pleased that all is not lost!! I'm pretty sure that the dish is still aligned, it's on a good base and sheltered by the house. If others can still get BBC on a 2.4 then no point in upgrading.

The LNB sounds like the best first move, it's four years old, and as you say sits in the sun all day.

Thanks

Phill

The Guy Oct 31st 2010 10:01 pm

Re: BBC2 NI Moving to a Vertical Transponder
 
yeah - pesky mods! lol!
the PM mentioned I am in your area tomorrow so can pop around if you want.
have now emailed you using the email you have linked this account to.


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